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12-28-2011, 08:20 PM | #1 | |||
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"Thanks for this!" says: | sim00 (12-29-2011) |
12-29-2011, 12:24 PM | #2 | ||
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In theory it sounds great. There are a lot of different takes on this theme. I have quite a bit of sound therapy equipment which sends a specific frequency thru your body. I've found it to be relaxing and good for falling asleep. However, I have not found any of this equipment to have any effect on specific Parkinson's issues. So, thousands of dollars spent and really no therapy. http://vibroacoustic.org/ - This company makes many claims but... I tried their product and got no results. If you google vibration table you will find some pretty good sources especially for creating a table yourself. There are some interesting ways to hook up subwoofers to your bed and vibrate away. There are also "gaming" chairs that kids use to "feel" their video games. They are not very expensive. Another thought would be for you to check with your local gyms. A current fad is a vibrating plate that you stand on that shakes your whole body and is supposed to add to your workout. Some gyms have them and you might be able to try one there. I'm a card carrying white rat and will try anything that doesn't kill me first but, these days I'm trying to be more careful with my money. I have too many boxes full of stuff (expensive stuff) that represent failed attempts to help my Parkinson's. So, I recommend free demos, samples and any other way you can try something without buying the whole cow. |
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"Thanks for this!" says: | sim00 (12-29-2011), soccertese (12-30-2011) |
12-29-2011, 08:26 PM | #3 | |||
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I have Soloflex vibration plate I am
hauling out to try. I am a lab rat, too. I recently tried frequency specific microcurrents http://frequencyspecific.com/blog/?p=16 without much effect. Ironically rodents seem to do much better in trials than we do. |
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12-30-2011, 02:49 AM | #4 | ||
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My interest in this topic started when I noticed that my tremor was reduced when travelling on trains. (That is, once I got over the stress of paying the high fares and fighting for a seat.) So, I've considered, but never got around to, building a vibration board; going, instead, down the forced exercise route. (This is related: vibration implies forced exercise.)
For a full text version of another paper by the same team on a similar subject see [1]. They used an amplitude of 3mm and a frequency of "6 Hz +/- 1 Hz/sec". ("Hz/sec" is not a typo on my part. If it was correct in the original, it means the rate of change of the frequency; but then the dimensions of the +/- are wrong.) Note the frequency used is towards the higher end of the PD range, 4 - 6 Hz [2]. One needs to look at the results carefully: both the experimental and control groups showed improvements in postural control (in the second test 24% vs 11.3%). I put the improvement in the control group down to learning, as opposed to a placebo effect. My advice to white rats, where working on your own, you are your own control group, is to start to measure your performance well before starting to white rat. I'm pleased to hear tales of white rat experiences, good and bad: white ratting may be a therapy itself. [1] "Effects of random whole-body vibration on postural control in Parkinson’s disease" S Turbanski , CT Haas, A Friedrich, P Duisberg, D Schmidtbleicher RESEARCH IN SPORTS MEDICINE – AN INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL 3/2005, 243-256 http://www.uni-frankfurt.de/fb/fb05/..._s_Disease.pdf [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signs_a...'s_disease John
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01-01-2012, 11:30 AM | #5 | ||
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John, It might be a lot less expensive to use Trainz with a Raildriver and a bunch of subwoofers! Trainz TS12 about $50 AUD, not counting their current sale with a 20% off voucher. www.auran.com Your Raildriver (optional) about $180 USD. http://raildriver.com/ Speakers, Logitech, Creative, or a number of manufacturers You can create, drive and vibrate your way all of the place! John
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01-03-2012, 11:52 PM | #6 | ||
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Have you guys devised any kind of home made vibration devices that seem to work?
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01-13-2012, 10:45 PM | #7 | ||
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01-17-2012, 11:06 PM | #8 | ||
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01-22-2012, 11:46 PM | #9 | ||
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Hi- Posting agai. Anyone been able to simulate vibration type therapies?
[ QUOTE=bubblyshar;842328]Hi there, Posting my message again..[/QUOTE] |
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01-23-2012, 09:24 PM | #10 | ||
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I was hospitalized with a G-I issue a year ago, and my primary care physician (bless her adventuresome heart) decided to try acupuncture after 6 days of i.v. steroids and antibiotics weren't helping. Two results: first, after putting in the needles, she hooked them up to a small electric current pulsing around 4-6 cycles per second. My tremor stopped immediately; secondly, she gave me another treatment the next day and my G-I problem cleared up entirely sparing me the surgery which was to take place if nothing else worked. I was, of course, delighted to be well again. But even more, I was fascinated, as someone very interested in audio, by the phenomenon of phase cancellation where two vibrations/waves of the same frequency but 180 degrees out of phase will negate or silence each other. It's the way those pricey Bose noise canceling headphones work. I'm not sure if this is similar to vibration therapy but there could be some overlap of principles here. Would be nice to be tremor free if it could be done with out walking around with needles sticking out. I'm happy to be a lab rat; not so sure about a lab porcupine.
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