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GerryW 01-25-2015 01:52 PM

carbidopa/PD
 
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Originally Posted by lurkingforacure (Post 1120199)
Gerry, I looked at the site and it's very interesting; however, when I click on the link posted in the website that is supposed to take me to the paper about the carbidopa/PD death rate which was peer-reviewed and published Sept. 2014, I get a "file not found" page.

Do you have a link you can share so we can access and read that paper? Thanks:)

Try http://www.dovepress.com/the-parkins...-article-CPAA#

Conductor71 01-27-2015 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GerryW (Post 1120151)
Hi Laura

I continue to do well on it. I used to have tremors, dystonias and fasciculations but now I don't. On the other hand, walking is a little worse, I think. Some things come and go like orthostatic hypotension.

I don't have off times or dyskinesias or other side effects. It's only been four years since diagnosis, though. Eating definitely hinders the effect, however, which is not supposed to happen. I am consulting about that.

Also on the negative side, they have raised the price of the supplements that were not cheap before!

Take care,
Gerry

Were you essentially drug naive (no levodopa or agonist) prior to starting?

I have heard that the formulation runs around $500 a month.

Thanks again!

GerryW 01-29-2015 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Conductor71 (Post 1120716)
Were you essentially drug naive (no levodopa or agonist) prior to starting?

I have heard that the formulation runs around $500 a month.

Thanks again!

Yes, that's true. I've never taken a prescription form of L-Dopa or an agonist.

$500 a month is quite possible. I spend that much myself but I need a high dose/

parkygirl 06-17-2015 08:31 AM

Re: Gerry W ...Hinz protocol
 
Hi Gerry W ....

Just wondering how you are currently doing on the Hinz protocol?

I have been on this protocol for 6 years... having my ups and downs. I also have found that food hinders the affects and have not been able to find a solution... unless I just stop eating:(... and sometimes I do eat less in order to feel better. :)

Thanks in advance for your response.

Parkygirl...

GerryW 06-17-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by parkygirl (Post 1148869)
Hi Gerry W ....

Just wondering how you are currently doing on the Hinz protocol?

I have been on this protocol for 6 years... having my ups and downs. I also have found that food hinders the affects and have not been able to find a solution... unless I just stop eating:(... and sometimes I do eat less in order to feel better. :)

Thanks in advance for your response.

Parkygirl...

Dr. Kalish sent me to Dr. Alvin Stein who started over. My complaint was the same as yours. I can eat or I can function but not both. Dr. Stein says I should be able to do both so we are doing testing again. If I don't eat, it works well. No side effects and I function normally.

soccertese 06-17-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GerryW (Post 1148893)
Dr. Kalish sent me to Dr. Alvin Stein who started over. My complaint was the same as yours. I can eat or I can function but not both. Dr. Stein says I should be able to do both so we are doing testing again. If I don't eat, it works well. No side effects and I function normally.

just curious, even low protein foods such as fruits negate the affect of your aa mix?
if i eat anything with more than 5grams of protein negates my C/L for up to 2hrs, have to double the dose and try to play catchup. anything dairy is the worst.


ironically, a lot of what you are taking is "food".

have you ever considered just taking C/L as needed just to see what it's like? or just as a backup in case you can't get your HINZ aa's? then you might get the best of both worlds?

badboy99 06-17-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GerryW (Post 1148893)
Dr. Kalish sent me to Dr. Alvin Stein who started over. My complaint was the same as yours. I can eat or I can function but not both. Dr. Stein says I should be able to do both so we are doing testing again. If I don't eat, it works well. No side effects and I function normally.

I'm in the same boat as both of you. Gerry if you get it figured out please fill us in.

GerryW 06-18-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by soccertese (Post 1148901)
just curious, even low protein foods such as fruits negate the affect of your aa mix?
if i eat anything with more than 5grams of protein negates my C/L for up to 2hrs, have to double the dose and try to play catchup. anything dairy is the worst.


ironically, a lot of what you are taking is "food".

have you ever considered just taking C/L as needed just to see what it's like? or just as a backup in case you can't get your HINZ aa's? then you might get the best of both worlds?

Thanks for the suggestion, Soccertese. I do get the protein effect, especially from milk. I think some of it, especially from low protein food, is just slow stomach emptying. I have often thought about taking the c/l pills at times when it is inconvenient to blend the powders or if I have to be hospitalized for some reason. I will ask Dr. Stein what an equivalent dose might be.

soccertese 06-18-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GerryW (Post 1149104)
Thanks for the suggestion, Soccertese. I do get the protein effect, especially from milk. I think some of it, especially from low protein food, is just slow stomach emptying. I have often thought about taking the c/l pills at times when it is inconvenient to blend the powders or if I have to be hospitalized for some reason. I will ask Dr. Stein what an equivalent dose might be.

C/L is cheap and effective, i never leave home without it.

badboy99 06-19-2015 09:17 AM

http://www.drbass.com/sequential.html

DIGESTION TIME OF VARIOUS FOODS
(approx. time spent in stomach before emptying). ........

Water
when stomach is empty, leaves immediately and goes into intestines,
Juices
Fruit vegetables, vegetable broth - 15 to 20 minutes.
Semi-liquid
(blended salad, vegetables or fruits) - 20 to 30 min.
Fruits
Watermelon - 20 min.digestion time.
Other melons - Canteloupe, Cranshaw, Honeydew etc. - 30 min.
Oranges, grapefruit, grapes - 30 min.
Apples, pears, peaches, cherries etc. - digest in 40 min.
Vegetables
Raw tossed salad vegetables - tomato, lettuces, cucumber, celery, red or green pepper, other succulent vegetables - 30 to 40 min. digestion. -
Steamed or cooked vegetables
Leafy vegetables - escarole, spinach, kale, collards etc. - 40 min. - Zucchini, broccoli, cauliflower, string beans, yellow squash, corn on cob - all 45 min. digestion time
Root vegetables - carrots, beets, parsnips, turnips etc. - 50 min.
Semi-Concentrated Carbohydrates - Starches
Jerusalem artichokes & leafy, acorn & butternut squashes, corn, potatoes, sweet potatoes, yam, chestnuts - all 60 min. digestion.
Concentrated Carbohydrates - Grains
Brown rice, millet, buckwheat, cornmeal, oats (first 3 vegetables best) - 90 min.
Legumes & Beans - (Concentrated Carbohydrate & Protein)
Lentils, limas, chick peas, peas, pigeon peas, kidney beans, etc. - 90 min. digestion time
soy beans -120 min. digestion time
Seeds & Nuts
Seeds - Sunflower, pumpkin, pepita, sesame - Digestive time approx. 2 hours.
Nuts - Almonds, filberts, peanuts (raw), cashews, brazil, walnuts, pecans etc. - 2 1/2 to 3 hours to digest.
Dairy
Skim milk, cottage or low fat pot cheese or ricotta - approx. 90 min. digestion time
whole milk cottage cheese - 120 min. digestion
whole milk hard cheese - 4 to 5 hours digestion time
Animal proteins
Egg yolk - 30 min. digestion time
Whole egg - 45 min.
Fish - cod, scrod, flounder, sole seafood - 30 min. digestion time
Fish - salmon, salmon trout, herring, (more fatty fish) - 45 min. to 60 digestion time
Chicken - 1½ to 2 hours digestion time (without skin)
Turkey - 2 to 2 ¼ hours digestion time (without skin)
Beef, lamb - 3 to 4 hours digestion time
Pork - 4½ to 5 hours digestion time

(Editor's notes
Note1: raw animal proteins have much faster digestion times than the above times for cooked/heated animal proteins.
Note2: The digestion times given are under an ideal situation of eating only one food, chewing well, and having efficient digestion, as is the case e.g. after a fast. They are digestion times for optimally healthy persons, with good eating habits. The digestion times are to a large part derived from Dr. Gian-Cursio's and Dr. Bass' practices.
Digestion times are much longer on a conventional diet, and for persons with non-optimized digestive systems, or persons lacking in energy, and for meals with many ingredients put together haphazardly = not in the optimum sequential order.)


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