Try http://www.dovepress.com/the-parkins...-article-CPAA#

Were you essentially drug naive (no levodopa or agonist) prior to starting?

I have heard that the formulation runs around $500 a month.

Thanks again!

Yes, that's true. I've never taken a prescription form of L-Dopa or an agonist.

$500 a month is quite possible. I spend that much myself but I need a high dose/

Hi Gerry W ....

Just wondering how you are currently doing on the Hinz protocol?

I have been on this protocol for 6 years... having my ups and downs. I also have found that food hinders the affects and have not been able to find a solution... unless I just stop eating... and sometimes I do eat less in order to feel better.

Thanks in advance for your response.

Parkygirl...

Dr. Kalish sent me to Dr. Alvin Stein who started over. My complaint was the same as yours. I can eat or I can function but not both. Dr. Stein says I should be able to do both so we are doing testing again. If I don't eat, it works well. No side effects and I function normally.

just curious, even low protein foods such as fruits negate the affect of your aa mix?
if i eat anything with more than 5grams of protein negates my C/L for up to 2hrs, have to double the dose and try to play catchup. anything dairy is the worst.


ironically, a lot of what you are taking is "food".

have you ever considered just taking C/L as needed just to see what it's like? or just as a backup in case you can't get your HINZ aa's? then you might get the best of both worlds?

I'm in the same boat as both of you. Gerry if you get it figured out please fill us in.

Thanks for the suggestion, Soccertese. I do get the protein effect, especially from milk. I think some of it, especially from low protein food, is just slow stomach emptying. I have often thought about taking the c/l pills at times when it is inconvenient to blend the powders or if I have to be hospitalized for some reason. I will ask Dr. Stein what an equivalent dose might be.

C/L is cheap and effective, i never leave home without it.

http://www.drbass.com/sequential.html

DIGESTION TIME OF VARIOUS FOODS
(approx. time spent in stomach before emptying). ........

Water
when stomach is empty, leaves immediately and goes into intestines,
Juices
Fruit vegetables, vegetable broth - 15 to 20 minutes.
Semi-liquid
(blended salad, vegetables or fruits) - 20 to 30 min.
Fruits
Watermelon - 20 min.digestion time.
Other melons - Canteloupe, Cranshaw, Honeydew etc. - 30 min.
Oranges, grapefruit, grapes - 30 min.
Apples, pears, peaches, cherries etc. - digest in 40 min.
Vegetables
Raw tossed salad vegetables - tomato, lettuces, cucumber, celery, red or green pepper, other succulent vegetables - 30 to 40 min. digestion. -
Steamed or cooked vegetables
Leafy vegetables - escarole, spinach, kale, collards etc. - 40 min. - Zucchini, broccoli, cauliflower, string beans, yellow squash, corn on cob - all 45 min. digestion time
Root vegetables - carrots, beets, parsnips, turnips etc. - 50 min.
Semi-Concentrated Carbohydrates - Starches
Jerusalem artichokes & leafy, acorn & butternut squashes, corn, potatoes, sweet potatoes, yam, chestnuts - all 60 min. digestion.
Concentrated Carbohydrates - Grains
Brown rice, millet, buckwheat, cornmeal, oats (first 3 vegetables best) - 90 min.
Legumes & Beans - (Concentrated Carbohydrate & Protein)
Lentils, limas, chick peas, peas, pigeon peas, kidney beans, etc. - 90 min. digestion time
soy beans -120 min. digestion time
Seeds & Nuts
Seeds - Sunflower, pumpkin, pepita, sesame - Digestive time approx. 2 hours.
Nuts - Almonds, filberts, peanuts (raw), cashews, brazil, walnuts, pecans etc. - 2 1/2 to 3 hours to digest.
Dairy
Skim milk, cottage or low fat pot cheese or ricotta - approx. 90 min. digestion time
whole milk cottage cheese - 120 min. digestion
whole milk hard cheese - 4 to 5 hours digestion time
Animal proteins
Egg yolk - 30 min. digestion time
Whole egg - 45 min.
Fish - cod, scrod, flounder, sole seafood - 30 min. digestion time
Fish - salmon, salmon trout, herring, (more fatty fish) - 45 min. to 60 digestion time
Chicken - 1½ to 2 hours digestion time (without skin)
Turkey - 2 to 2 ¼ hours digestion time (without skin)
Beef, lamb - 3 to 4 hours digestion time
Pork - 4½ to 5 hours digestion time

(Editor's notes
Note1: raw animal proteins have much faster digestion times than the above times for cooked/heated animal proteins.
Note2: The digestion times given are under an ideal situation of eating only one food, chewing well, and having efficient digestion, as is the case e.g. after a fast. They are digestion times for optimally healthy persons, with good eating habits. The digestion times are to a large part derived from Dr. Gian-Cursio's and Dr. Bass' practices.
Digestion times are much longer on a conventional diet, and for persons with non-optimized digestive systems, or persons lacking in energy, and for meals with many ingredients put together haphazardly = not in the optimum sequential order.)