[soccertese]

http://www.denverpost.com/outwest/ci...insons-disease

pretty amazing imho.

[waterwillow]

WOW isn't that guy amazing and the people who have the guts to give it a go.

He seems to have found a way to help not only the physical but also the mental wellbeing of his pupils. Maybe he is rewiring the movements to different neurons?

Sometimes I wonder myself if it is possible to continualy relearn things when the ability seems to drift away. What I mean is if I put a new program onto my computer and it gets a bit corrupted I can just reintroduce the same program and use it until it gets corrupted and so on. Eventually though like the brain the hard drive would have no good space left to save the program to. Make sense or am I loosing it again LOL

My attitude is that just because for a time I can't do something won't stop me attempting it at a later date even if I have to get help to retrain what brain cells I have left.

[Conductor71]

Originally Posted by soccertese

http://www.denverpost.com/outwest/ci...insons-disease

pretty amazing imho.

It is pretty cool. Yet, what I don't get is how people in such good physical shape can get sick with this in the first place when it looks so neuroprotective after the fact? On the one hand, we are led to believe that exercise wards off neuro decline and effects of aging, yet even athletes do not necessarily seem better equipped to avoid PD. How is it the that the exercise is not enough to ward off disease onset, but powerful enough to function like levodopa to reduce symptoms?

I am wondering if exercise, which is beneficial for neurotransmitter homeostasis and/or generation, works with our compensatory system somehow. I still find it amazing that our brain compensates long as it does in the first place. Maybe exercise allows us to tap back into that somehow?

I also think that what he said about making opposite movements of PD (BIG training) can help us re-circuit our faulty wiring? Perhaps, most amazing at all is how long has it been the norm that stroke victims can regain movement or function and we are now just "discovering" this on a clinical level with PD?

[soccertese]

i agree, it is perplexing. maybe jay robert's current clinical trial will shed more light on the matter.
i'm making the assumption that he is doing a 2nd trial based on stuff i read months ago, not sure of current status.

if exercise makes you "normal", why do we ever get pd is the obvious question and i'm sure not going to dive into that.

i'd guess i'd like to know how long lasting the affect is in these studies, weeks, months? are some brain cells temporarily stimulated? does some metabolite from muscle cells get into the brain and stimulate neurons?

regardless, i'm still pumping away on my recumbent bike, no permanent affect but i do feel better for at least an hour afterwards.

[Arsippe]

Originally Posted by Conductor71

It is pretty cool. Yet, what I don't get is how people in such good physical shape can get sick with this in the first place when it looks so neuroprotective after the fact? On the one hand, we are led to believe that exercise wards off neuro decline and effects of aging, yet even athletes do not necessarily seem better equipped to avoid PD. How is it the that the exercise is not enough to ward off disease onset, but powerful enough to function like levodopa to reduce symptoms?

I am wondering if exercise, which is beneficial for neurotransmitter homeostasis and/or generation, works with our compensatory system somehow. I still find it amazing that our brain compensates long as it does in the first place. Maybe exercise allows us to tap back into that somehow?

I also think that what he said about making opposite movements of PD (BIG training) can help us re-circuit our faulty wiring? Perhaps, most amazing at all is how long has it been the norm that stroke victims can regain movement or function and we are now just "discovering" this on a clinical level with PD?

Wonderful indeed, to see this man in action. But I, too, have wondered about the issue of neuro protectiveness after the fact. The article does say, though, that he hadn't hIked in some time or climbed in ten years. I bought a recumbent stationery bike a couple mos. ago and though I started really slowly, in the past two weeks, I've pushed hard and for the first time got some relief with tremors. This is the first tremor relief I've had.

[waterwillow]

Arsippi, good for u. There must be something in it, maybe the exercise stimulates the production of the chemicals that create dopamine or possibly the uptake is improved.

At the end of the day if it works for u keep at it.