Parkinson's Disease Tulip


advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-02-2014, 04:35 AM #1
lab rat lab rat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 108
10 yr Member
lab rat lab rat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 108
10 yr Member
Default A potential way to smooth out Ldopa absorbtion

Full article

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6882/14/296
lab rat is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
aab45 (09-10-2014), badboy99 (09-02-2014), GerryW (09-02-2014), johnt (08-30-2018), soccertese (09-02-2014), Stand Tall (09-10-2014), Tupelo3 (09-02-2014)

advertisement
Old 09-02-2014, 08:58 AM #2
soccertese soccertese is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,531
15 yr Member
soccertese soccertese is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,531
15 yr Member
Default

thanks, interesting work, will take awhile to read and digest.

will have compare to early controlled release research.

haven't read enough of article to see if they measured "on/off" or if patients were advanced enough to experience them.
soccertese is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
lab rat (09-02-2014), Tupelo3 (09-02-2014)
Old 09-02-2014, 09:03 AM #3
GerryW's Avatar
GerryW GerryW is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Marysville, WA
Posts: 613
10 yr Member
GerryW GerryW is offline
Member
GerryW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Marysville, WA
Posts: 613
10 yr Member
Default Metamucil?

Interesting! On the other hand psyllium (Metamucil, plantago) is not recommended for PWP because it can make constipation worse. See http://movementdisorders.ufhealth.or...-constipation/

The article contradicts itself by first recommending Metamucil then warning against it.
__________________
Born 1948. Diagnosed 2011. DBS ON 7/17. Taking cd/ld 200 MG at 6 am, 9 am, 12 pm, 3 pm, 6 pm and 9 pm. Finasteride 5 mg, Life Extension Mix and Once-Daily Health Booster, Mitochondrial Energy Optimizer with BioPQQ, Optimized Curcumin (longvida), Triple Action Cruciferous Vegetable Extract with Resveratrol, Vectomega-3, Vit D3 5000U,Lithium orotate 5 mg, AMPK Activator, Kefiran, N-Acetyl-L- Cysteine (NAC), Tri-Magnesium, Advanced NeuroPro, Duozyme,
Palmitoylethanolamide (PEA) Updated 9/21/17.
GerryW is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
lab rat (09-02-2014), soccertese (09-02-2014), Tupelo3 (09-02-2014)
Old 09-02-2014, 09:36 AM #4
Tupelo3 Tupelo3 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 832
10 yr Member
Tupelo3 Tupelo3 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 832
10 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lab rat View Post
Thanks lab rat. Too much for me to "digest" on the morning back after a long weekend. I'll wait for you guys to review and give an opinion.

Last edited by Tupelo3; 09-03-2014 at 07:02 AM.
Tupelo3 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
lab rat (09-02-2014)
Old 09-02-2014, 11:00 PM #5
lurkingforacure lurkingforacure is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,485
15 yr Member
lurkingforacure lurkingforacure is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,485
15 yr Member
Default already bought some and are trying it...

So we'll see, and report back. I will be curious to see if it has any effect on

1. constipation (does it help in that dept. or make things worse or have no effect)

2. evening out the peaks/valleys of dosing every two hours

just a note: the one I bought from a health food store is a capsule of pure psyllium....there are others that have a bunch of other stuff in them. I wanted to avoid that complicating factor so we went with the pure encapsulated version. Best to take the capsule with a full 8oz. of water, I was told...I guess if you don't do that, you can increase the chance of getting constipated.
lurkingforacure is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
lab rat (09-03-2014)
Old 09-10-2014, 08:33 AM #6
Stand Tall Stand Tall is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 139
10 yr Member
Stand Tall Stand Tall is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 139
10 yr Member
Default PD is a movement disorder in more than one way!

Although I can’t speak about flaxseed helping smooth out levodopa absorption levels, it is however an excellent and healthy way to help alleviate and/or prevent the discomfort of constipation.

I have used flaxseed for over a decade, adding it to everything thing from oatmeal, cereals, yogurt, smoothies, baked goods, meatloaf, meatballs, etc. Be sure to use ground flaxseed (whole seeds will not be absorbed) and refrigerate the open package. Give it a try, add 1-2 tablespoons to your diet, slowly. It has a nutty flavor, much nicer than the “orange” drink!

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-li...d/faq-20058354

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/benefits-of-flaxseed
Stand Tall is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
lab rat (09-10-2014), moondaughter (09-29-2018), soccertese (09-10-2014)
Old 08-30-2018, 06:49 PM #7
johnt johnt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Stafford, UK
Posts: 1,059
15 yr Member
johnt johnt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Stafford, UK
Posts: 1,059
15 yr Member
Default

I'm still looking for ways to smooth out levodopa levels. And via the original paper, found this thread from 4 years ago.

Here are the pharmacokinetic parameters reported in the paper:

V = value
U = units
A = initial situation
B = Plantago ovata husk
P = placebo

V, U, A, B, P
TMAX, min, 35.83, 39.72, 36.17
CMAX, ng/ml, 603.2, 547.8, 612.0
AUC, ug.min/ml, 62.87, 64.47, 65.10
THALF, min, 75.2, 81.9, 74.0

So, any effect here is small and probably not statistically significant. But, nevertheless, it's probably a useful area for N=1 trials: you might be able to squeeze a 10% increase out of your levodopa by optimising its use in this way.

John
__________________
Born 1955. Diagnosed PD 2005.
Meds 2010-Nov 2016: Stalevo(75 mg) x 4, ropinirole xl 16 mg, rasagiline 1 mg
Current meds: Stalevo(75 mg) x 5, ropinirole xl 8 mg, rasagiline 1 mg
johnt is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Smooth Gator CWilhite Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) 3 11-12-2012 02:01 PM
Magnesium absorbtion/amount and Kaprex? daniella Vitamins, Nutrients, Herbs and Supplements 17 05-30-2011 04:51 AM
PD & smooth muscles - & heart problems... lou_lou Parkinson's Disease 0 02-11-2011 08:33 PM
Smooth Away - Product Review tkrik Women's Health 7 05-17-2009 10:41 AM
Low B12 with absorbtion problems cmottenwess Vitamins, Nutrients, Herbs and Supplements 6 11-24-2008 07:39 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:51 PM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.