[reverett123]

I was cleaning up the hard drive and found this from some time ago. Ayurvedic botanical brain food. An old, well respected company and a lot of research. It is cheap too. back when I found it, I emailed Girija for her thoughts. She had no experience with it but did seem favorably impressed with the research and the schools involved. Girija, is that a fair statement?
http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/pr...ntat_syrup.htm

[lurkingforacure]

Originally Posted by reverett123

I was cleaning up the hard drive and found this from some time ago. Ayurvedic botanical brain food. An old, well respected company and a lot of research. It is cheap too. back when I found it, I emailed Girija for her thoughts. She had no experience with it but did seem favorably impressed with the research and the schools involved. Girija, is that a fair statement?
http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/pr...ntat_syrup.htm

Rick, I went to the link posted and tried to order some, but it kept coming up as Mindcare and the ingredients seem very different from those listed on your link for Mentat even though the site seems to indicate they are the same product. Are you able to find a place to actually order Mentat as opposed to MindCare?

[Canna]

The Mentat formula looks worth a try from what I have read (all I could get my hands on in English) but it has vacha which, according to a book I have by Vasant Lad, is restricted from internal use in the US by the FDA. That could explain the ordering problem. I have seen the Himalaya Mindcare caps mentioned at Whole Foods and also one by Banyan Botanicals online called Mental Clarity.

The book, "Ayurvedic Perspectives on Selected Pathologies" lists three types of PD and Bala and Vidari are listed in all three along with some others. If I tried one I would take the BB because for now I am avoiding macuna as it is apparently not recommended for younger patients early in the disease (based on l-dopa research not on specific research about macuna pruriens). Rick, I remember reading you took macuna, did you take it with Ashwagandha and ginger or other herbs?
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Kim

[Canna]

I posted a longer post about this but it vanished...My main point was that vacha is not approved for human consumption by the FDA. That probably explains why you can't order Mentat on the Himalaya site for the USA. You can get the other product at Whole Foods or there is an alternative at Banyan Botanicals.

I will rewrite some of the other stuff I wrote about ayurvedic herbs for PD after I see if this post goes!

Kim

[madamlash]

Do we know exactly what ingredients we are looking for? I found what looks to be a generic at http://health-seller.com/product.php...d=5008988&s=jt but I would like to know more about what I am looking for before ordering. Also, is there any difference between caps and liquid? How about dosage?
Here's another source that seems to have vacha in it http://www.ayurvedabay.com

[lurkingforacure]

What is the problem with vada? Why is it not approved in the US but everywhere else? I can't help but wonder if taking an ingredient out of the mentat herb mix radically changes how it works....

[Canna]

The first site with the Mentat is British and the other is Indian. You could order it and see if they will ship it. (Himalaya directly sells in the US and they won't let you order from other sites. I tried to order from the European one and got a message--"Apparently you are not in Europe" or something like that.) Let me know!

Vacha/Sweet flag is available in the US, just not for internal use. A study found a carcinogenic effect of with very high doses of vacha aka sweet flag and their was a paper that argued that it should be a controlled substance. It is an important tonic for the nervous system in Ayurveda.

In Lad's book I mentioned, vacha oil or powder is recommended for nasya (in the nose) for PD. It states that use of vacha stimulates the basal ganglia. No basis is given for this statement but I think it is interesting that a treatment through the nose is used for PD when the olfactory bulb may be one of the first areas affected in the disease.

Kim

[Galaxy1012]

I have been using this product since about 4 months. The effects are slow subtle but definitive. It works. My speech has improved , clarity of thought and memory is better after taking it. Highly recommended

[Akash]

Originally Posted by Galaxy1012

I have been using this product since about 4 months. The effects are slow subtle but definitive. It works. My speech has improved , clarity of thought and memory is better after taking it. Highly recommended

Galaxy do you take any other medicine apart from this? Also were your symptoms severe. I am thinking of ordering it for my 85 yr old dad who has speech, balance issues. He takes levodopa.

[Chemar]

just an FYI that Galaxy takes Mentat related to PCS/TBI, not PD

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...40#post1109240