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Old 03-16-2015, 07:27 AM #1
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Default Infrared Helmet Claims to Reverse Symptoms of Parkinson's

This was discussed on this forum in 2008, but hasn't seen much activity as of late:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/sh...nfrared&page=1

I am contemplating enrolling my father in clinical trials of an LED helmet that uses several Near Infrared (nIR) Bulbs that focus infrared light into the brain. A rather convincing video posted on Youtube led me to Marvin Berman, the director of the Quiet Mind Foundation. You can see two compelling videos by searching the web for:

1072 treatment Parkinson's

then search for:

CBS Light Therapy Helmet Helps Treat Health Problems

While the videos are pretty amazing, I am cautiously optimistic, and would specifically like to know how patients will do in the long term with such a treatment.

I spoke with Dr. Berman on the phone, at which point he reviewed the preliminary research with me, and discussed the preliminary results of more than 20 people in Africa who he claims had an 80% success rate using this technology. I believe he is conducting this research in coordination with Durham university.

The research on nIR shows that it stimulates neuroprotection and ATP production (ATP is what cells use to create energy within the cell), which might explain the surprising results in the video above.

In order to enter the study, the cost is $15,000, which is due to the extremely high cost of 1072 nm LEDs. As this represents a huge portion of my dad's retirement savings, I'm not jumping into this without due diligence. I would like to know if anyone has any experience using nIR, specifically at wavelengths of 1072 nanometers, which has been shown during neurosurgical studies to penetrate through the skin and skull, reaching much deeper into the cortical tissue. I know several people discussed building similar LED helmets in 2008, so hopefully someone can share anecdotal evidence?

I will share research on nIR later, but don't have time to post it now.

Thanks in advance!
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One quick addendum: a major focus of this research is also neurofeedback training, so Z-Score EEG training is added to the nIR therapy. Z-Score EEG biofeedback trains the client's EEG toward "normative" values, which are values you expect to see in a representative sample of people who don't have any identified pathology and who are cognitively high functioning individuals.
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This was discussed on this forum in 2008, but hasn't seen much activity as of late:

[url]http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/showthread.php?t=37301&highlight=infrared&page=1[/url
The research on nIR shows that it stimulates neuroprotection and ATP production (ATP is what cells use to create energy within the cell), which might explain the surprising results in the video above.

In order to enter the study, the cost is $15,000, which is due to the extremely high cost of 1072 nm LEDs. As this represents a huge portion of my dad's retirement savings, I'm not jumping into this without due diligence. I would like to know if anyone has any experience using nIR, specifically at wavelengths of 1072 nanometers, which has been shown during neurosurgical studies to penetrate through the skin and skull, reaching much deeper into the cortical tissue. I know several people discussed building similar LED helmets in 2008, so hopefully someone can share anecdotal evidence?

I will share research on nIR later, but don't have time to post it now.

Thanks in advance!
Jonathan

Hi Jonathan,

Altho I''ve not seen reference specifically to the helmet by Randy Eady, he has extensive background in developing and applying infrared light technology and is famaliar with frequency specific applications . Also Dr. Sandyk who practices in NY. (both easily found on the net)

Thanks and please keep us updated!

All the best ....sharilyn
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Hi Jonathan,

Altho I''ve not seen reference specifically to the helmet by Randy Eady, he has extensive background in developing and applying infrared light technology and is famaliar with frequency specific applications . Also Dr. Sandyk who practices in NY. (both easily found on the net)

Thanks and please keep us updated!

All the best ....sharilyn
It's amazing you should write that because I recently came across a post on Randy Eady, and was thinking of calling him because we live in Miami. Now I will definitely do that! Thank you very much
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LUCKY you!!well all I can say is get ready for more synchronicities....

I live in the opposite direction (Oregon) but am traveling to see Randy in April.
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you are going to wipe out your father's savings on what could possibly be a scam?

i looked at Marvin Berman's website, i wouldn't touch this treatment with a 10 foot pole.

if you still want to do this, go down the list of associates on his website and see how many you can actually contact.
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you are going to wipe out your father's savings on what could possibly be a scam?

i looked at Marvin Berman's website, i wouldn't touch this treatment with a 10 foot pole.

if you still want to do this, go down the list of associates on his website and see how many you can actually contact.
Hi soccer,

Not sure why you would start off with an attack, but please refer to the top where I mentioned due diligence. I have not committed anything to this project, but am in the process of collecting data. If you want to add to the conversation, please make it pleasant and refute the claims. But if you are interested in looking at some of the research, look up infrared on Pubmed.

Other than the extraordinary claims, what makes you think it is a scam? I will respect any logical, tangible contributions you have to make to this discussion, and hope you do the same for me
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I have done near infrared light therapy for restless legs and also localized healing. It has helped me. Here's a crazy link that covers all kinds of things related to it, including a helmet.

http://heelspurs.com/led.html

NASA actually came up with healing and near infrared. There is a lot to this concept but I don't know about paying 15K for inclusion in a study.

I personally use infrared lights designed for night security systems. They are around 750-850.
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I have done near infrared light therapy for restless legs and also localized healing. It has helped me. Here's a crazy link that covers all kinds of things related to it, including a helmet.

http://heelspurs.com/led.html

NASA actually came up with healing and near infrared. There is a lot to this concept but I don't know about paying 15K for inclusion in a study.

I personally use infrared lights designed for night security systems. They are around 750-850.
Thanks so much for your input. Infrared LEDs range in price, depending on the wavelength, and apparently as of 2009, _each_ 1072nm LED ran about $400:

http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread83783.html
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Hi soccer,

Not sure why you would start off with an attack, but please refer to the top where I mentioned due diligence. I have not committed anything to this project, but am in the process of collecting data. If you want to add to the conversation, please make it pleasant and refute the claims. But if you are interested in looking at some of the research, look up infrared on Pubmed.

Other than the extraordinary claims, what makes you think it is a scam? I will respect any logical, tangible contributions you have to make to this discussion, and hope you do the same for me
i suggested you check on whether the "staff" mentioned on the website are real and associated with Marvin Berman, that would be the first thing i would do to evaluate if the process was a scam.
i think it's a scam, can't prove it. just figured i would comment since you mentioned a sig. amount of money. i'm done here.
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