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10-20-2016, 06:44 PM | #2 | ||
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Hey Billbobby, is there a central source for the documentation of this protocol? For example the link you sent me for the pill stop Was invaluable. I've come across quite a few of these kind of things that help me understand the protocol, but are not generally available on the surface anyway. I Find them from various site Links usually connecting to/from Dr. Stein site etc.
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10-21-2016, 03:27 PM | #3 | ||
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Here is a good link for information on Parkinsons: Parkinson’s disease | Management of the most far reaching and newly defined set of relative nutritional deficiencies Password is 555 Last edited by anon122822; 10-21-2016 at 05:47 PM. |
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11-02-2016, 11:32 AM | #4 | ||
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Hey BillBobby, such great info thank you so much! Those passwords be fuddled me more than I can tell you… Is there a site other than this one or health unlocked where amino acids therapy is discussed? The Hinz protocol community shouldn't be this small.
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02-11-2018, 09:27 PM | #5 | ||
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11-08-2018, 08:28 AM | #6 | ||
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My husband was diagnosed a year ago with PD. We researched side effects of pharm drugs and decided not to go that route. We were blessed to find the Hinz protocol and found a clinic in WI to administer and monitor the amino acid therapy. He is on a very low dose and is doing amazing! It took a few months to find the right dosage, but now has his humor back, facial expressions, smoother movements, and more energy mentally and physically. So I definitely would say that this therapy is working for him.
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11-09-2018, 06:39 PM | #7 | ||
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I had similar results just taking 1 tiny carbidopa/levodopa pill 3 times a day starting 2 years after my diagnosis. just curious, did you meet anyone with parkinson's who has been on the HINZ protocol for 5 years or more? Don't know how anyone could prove how long they have been on the protocol. Posters on this board tried it and eventually stopped when it couldn't reduce their symptoms enough. I waited maybe 2 years before taking any meds after diagnosis and like you shied away from conventional drugs, just taking macuna purien capsules and also buying it in bulk plus a myriad of supplements. In year 3 i switched to conventional drugs., i didn't need to spend hundreds of dollars a month for food supplements that i had to buy from a HINZ related doctor. your're not likely going to have any side affects from a low dose HINZ protocol but you will when the dose gets high enough. you really have no idea what is in the supplements you take in this protocol, for all you know they could grind up some carbidopa/levodopa pills and add it in to one of the common supplements they have you buy. just pure speculation on my part but why do they require you to buy all their supplements from them when they could be bought much more cheaply from a natural foods store? ever wonder why doctors are not allowed to dispense drugs except when there is no pharmacy nearby? to keep them from writing RX's just for the money. just food for thought. i think you'll find as time goes on you'll pay more and more for testing and blood work to find just the right combination of supplements and will have to take ridiculous amounts of mucana. and then will switch to C/L. fyi A Skeptical Look at Dr. Marty Hinz and His Views of "Neurotranmitter-Related Diseases" Last edited by soccertese; 11-10-2018 at 02:43 AM. |
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11-11-2018, 11:10 AM | #8 | ||
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I would love to hear from someone who has had PD for more than 5 years on the Hinz protocol. From what I have read, lots of things "work" very early in the disease but as things progress, it seems like everyone ends up on the conventional meds.
My question would be mainly: 1. if you are newly dx'd and start on Hinz and stick with it, did it keep you from progressing? Were you able to keep taking the same amount of product or did you need to increase/tweak it? If the protocol was really addressing the root cause, some kind of imbalance, then it would seem that you would not progress any further or develop any additional symptoms, nor would you need to increase dosages. I guess the same thing could be said if you had had PD for several years-if the protocol re-balanced everything, your progression would stop once you achieved that balance. But I can't find anyone who ever has been able to do that on this protocol-it's a constant adjustment and testing and further adjustment, and everyone does seem to progress (or gives up and starts the PD meds) from what I can find. I don't mean to knock this therapy-if it works for you, awesome. But the PD drugs are amazing too...in the beginning. I'd like to know how people do long-term on this protocol, other than having to resort to the meds when money runs out or it's not working as well anymore. Please share! |
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11-17-2019, 10:30 PM | #9 | ||
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Hi, I tried the Hinz protocol with two providers and it was let’s say, a learning experience.. failure’s both times. I still believe there is some merit to the science, but the support infrastructure was shaky (->2016). I never seem to see many long-term successes with though there may be. I march on seeking ways to heal myself and help others than to spend any more time and money in what is still only a symptom reliever in my estimation.
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11-18-2019, 11:33 PM | #10 | ||
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So you essentially have a lot of 'doctors' (many chiros, etc who often have no business claiming expertise on such a dynamic modality) that begin treating patients without really any fundamental understanding of what they are doing. This leads to patients getting poor results, and directly impacts the integrity of the actual incredibly progressive science beneath it. Dr. Hinz consults with physicians 6 hours a day 4 days a week. Even if there were only 50 practitioners applying this science, there is no way for Dr. Hinz to be able to scale his ability to educate these people on how to actually apply it. Another issue is that many of these Doctor's ego's get in the way. They go to one medical conference, oversimplify it in their head, and then don't seek out further understanding education of it because of their shortsightedness. In my estimation, there is probably less than 50 doctor's (but i wouldn't even be surprised if there is less than 20 or 10) that truly understand how to properly manipulate L-dopa, 5-htp, L-cysteine, L-Tyrosine, and co-factors as described by Hinz in an effective sustainable fashion that actually gets the desired result for the patient which is essentially increasing the electrical output of the remaining viable neuronal structures to a degree that makes up for the deficit from the dead ones. Who were the 2 doctors you worked with? I could do a little research into their websites if they have them to get a better idea as to what their competency is with this methodology. Also, one other thing I wanted to mention is that there are probably (i'm not sure of specifics) less than 1000 patients who have been treated under the Hinz methodology. The amount of these patients who have been treated correctly is probably less than 500. These patients who have had success generally will not be the types to frequent forums as why would they? People that are well don't spend their time on forums, they spend it living their life. So the issue with there not being a ton of personal case studies available on the internet is there is a relatively low N of patients who have been treated by it, combined with many of these patients being mismanaged, combined with patients who do get good results and their life back aren't going to have any reason to go searching for information and support in these types of forums. Last edited by anon122822; 11-19-2019 at 01:36 AM. |
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