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Old 03-18-2019, 10:09 AM   #1
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GDNF. Where now? – Jon Stamford

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Old 03-18-2019, 11:30 AM   #2
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Jon's article is well worth a read. If you want to look further, it is useful to see the data in the paper [1] that includes the results for the 40 - 80 week period. The first period, 0 - 40 week, was double blinded, placebo controlled. The second period, 40 - 80 week was open label, with the original treatment group continuing as before and the original placebo group now also taking the treatment.

This GDNF trial should become a classic case study of statistical analysis. Every time a read it I come away with a different picture.

The ones that interest me today are:

LEDD mg, GDNF/GDNF, baseline= 1011, week 80= 1071
LEDD mg, Placebo/GDNF, baseline= 954, week 80= 1243

Timed tapping: OFF-state, GDNF/GDNF, baseline= 43.1, week 80= 63.8
Timed tapping: OFF-state, Placebo/GDNF, baseline= 42.4, week 80= 59.1

The increase in the levodopa equivalent daily dose especially in the Placebo/GDNF group is likely, in my opinion, to be a confounding issue.

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[1] "Extended Treatment with Glial Cell Line-Derived Neurotrophic Factor in Parkinson’s Disease"
Alan L. Whonea et al.
Journal of Parkinson's Disease 2019, Corrected Proof
https://content.iospress.com/downloa...se%2Fjpd191576

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After off meds assessment we were all given sinemet 350MG to bring us on,
Im a 5ft 2 woman what about the 15 stone 6ft man.The on dose should be titrated up to the individual need.
If I had a full English breakfast time to on was 50 minutes a banana was 10 minutes.what you eat effects outcome statistics.Im wrong perhaps but it makes sense to me it an important question
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It makes sense to me too.

Although behind a paywall a paper by Zappia et al. [1] states:

"Patients underwent an oral acute LD test with 250 mg of LD".

"In our sample, women were significantly lighter and had a significantly greater area under the curve than men."

That suggests that women get the benefit of more levodopa.

"Moreover, a greater percentage of women showed LD peak-dose dyskinesias compared with men."

That suggests that weight has some pharmacodynamic effect.

Also, I would suggest that as the disease progresses, and dopaminergic cells die off, reducing both the endogenous production and storage of dopamine, the more closely that the pharmacodynamics follow the pharmacokinetics.

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[1] "Body Weight Influences Pharmacokinetics of Levodopa in Parkinson's Disease
Zappia, Mario et al.
Clinical Neuropharmacology: March-April 2002
Body Weight Influences Pharmacokinetics of Levodopa in Parki... : Clinical Neuropharmacology

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