As we all know, one has to live it to understand it...but he looks sincere - remembering the impossible standards guys like him are supposed to maintain.

I didn't like his hate-speak days ....respect fell then for me.

On the other hand, it's interesting to have different career phases in your life, and it could be true of many of us-

I'd rather listen to a voice with a little more zip to it.

paula

soooooooo

returning to the Rugby World Cup




YAY BOKS!!!!!!

Do you find Gore a bore? To the rest of the world, please see my thread about global connections....after I post it that is..... I've already taken this thread off track.

Carry on with the rugby banter....I'm afraid I don't understand the names of your teams. All Blacks would be considered politically questionable over here in the land of everything offends someone. It's rather repressing that someone is out to jump on you if you even mention certain words.

Now Boks - I just don't know what that is? It's almost like Boinks?

Cheerio,
paula

Hi Paula

no, I am actually very behind Al Gore now that he is doing worthwhile stuff and leaving this nasty politics to others......

My post was related to the fact that South Africa beat England today to become the Rugby World Cup champions

The South African team are the Springboks (named after a very swift African gazelle)...hence the Boks cheer

perfectly --- those of you around the world....this sounds pretty important! And the boks have it.


thanks c,
p

Well done the Boks, even if we were cheated out of our perfect try.
Why were all the penalties awarded to S.Africa?
Because you committed all the fouls I hear you cry!!
It was a good natured hard game, and the best side won.
well, I was wrong in my prediction, I usually am!
So I will make another one (You have got to be right some time).
The new British driver Lewis Hamilton to win todays Formula one motor racing in Brazil.
Ron

Who wrote and sung that song? Hmmmm... But I digress. The All Black name is infamous among Rugby Playing nations of the world. It stems from the First time the New Zealand Rugby Team travelled abroad to the home countries of England, Ireland, and Wales and played in their tradition uniform of a black jersey, black shorts, and black socks. They were labelled the team that played in All Black by the British press and the name stuck. On that 1905 extensive tour the All Blacks were undefeated on tour and have become the most successful team in world rugby since. The All Black name is not a name associated with racial issues. On that 1905 tour the All Blacks lost one game against Wales who were the dominant Rugby team in Europe at the time.

Chemar, congratulations on a spirited win by the Boks. Fantastic for South African Rugby, and fantastic for southern Hemisphere rugby. You guys will party hard into the night, and I suspect for a month or two after that. There are many contentious issues facing South African rugby, and things have not gone well for the team in the last four years. Let's hope this magnificant win will bring all the parties together for the benefit of South African and world rugby.

Ron, condolences on your loss. A stupendous effort by England for making the final considering their below par effort on the world stage over the last four years. In my view the try scored by Cueto after a brilliant break and run by your centre, and unbelievable handling by the backs to get the ball out wide could have gone either way. Had the try been awarded it could very well have been an England victory.

Lewis Hamilton's McLaren racing car could not have picked a worse time to have problems in that final championship race in Brazil. He had three pit stops during the race due to car problems (and that is not a recipe for winning races) and still finished seventh...unbelievable....It was enough to cause him the loss of winning the drivers championship by one point. He and his Mcaren team will be gutted. But lets look at the bright side, the guy is only 22. There are bound to be many F1 world racing championships that will come his way.

GO HARD SCIENCE

having watched the match with a load of England fans at an Irish bar in Belgium !!

Great fun, English everywhere. Congratulations Chemar, the Boks were the better team, (but so were a lot of others ), so we never knew until the end what the result would be.

England made us proud, they took limited ability and made the best of it to succeed where other, more talented teams, fell by the wayside. Perhaps sport imitating life for some of us here !!

Roll on the next test matches, we'll be back.

Take care,
Neil.

p.s. Paula, you can hi-jack any thread of mine anytime you care, I know you haven't got a clue what 90% of this thread was about but your contribution has been great as ever !!

Howard, The song was written by Ray Hildebrand, who wrote the song and also sang it with Jill Jackson as Paula. This team was formerly known as "Ray and Jill" or maybe it was "Jill and Ray."

A visit to Google was the least I could do after your thorough explanation of how the All Blacks got their name. Never for a minute did I actually believe it was racist in origin and wish we lived in a world where that was never an issue.

Neil, good thing you didn't mind the interruption because I just did it again. You all seem like such good natured sports fans.

Paula