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Default Modafinil (PROVIGIL®) Can Improve Physical Fatigue in Patients With PD

Modafinil (PROVIGIL®) Can Improve Physical Fatigue in Patients With Parkinson's Disease: Presented at ANA

By Maggie Schwarz

WASHINGTON, DC -- October 9, 2007 -- Modafinil can reduced physical fatigue commonly seen in patients with Parkinson's disease, researchers reported here at the 132nd Annual Meeting of the American Neurological Association (ANA).

"It was very gratifying to find that modafinil improves physical fatigue in patients with Parkinson's disease," reflected study presenter Jau-Shin Lou, MD, Associate Professor of Neurology, University of Oregon Medical School, Portland, Oregon, United States.

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When i told my GP that fatigue was getting to the point where i could not get out of bed in the morning, he prescribed provigil. For me anyway, it never did anything more than a couple of cups of strong coffee! I could take it and go to bed and sleep!
I dunno, but i think that provigil holds no current special status as a new drug for any applications that older drugs don't fit. Sure , it is chemically unique as far as a structure of a central nervous system stimulant, but I don't think it's anything better than what we have on the market now, that is, generic and cheap. cs
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Default nada.....

Provigil did nothing for me either. I don't know of anyone offhand that it has worked for.

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Default Does Provigil make Insomnia Worse?

I had heard about this drug and had been wondering if it might help. However, I'm having so much trouble with insomnia that I'm leery of taking anything that might make it worse. I quit drinking coffee because I thought it might be contributing to my difficulty with sleep, but it didn't seem to matter either way. Coffee does help reduce daytime fatigue, however. If a cup of coffee doesn't have much impact on sleep, perhaps provigil might not either.

Has anyone with insomnia tried provigil? If so, how did it impact your insomnia?

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Thanks for the comments. I had hoped that maybe this was just the med I needed for my fatigue...guess not.

I do believe I need another sleep study. It has been about 10 years since my last study. I am tired of being tired all day long and getting out of bed already needing to return and sleep within 2 hours.

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carolyn,

my dad has been taking provigal for years. it's the only thing that keeps him awake and going during the day. he doesn't drink coffee or caffienated drinks because of prostate problems. ( he refuses to stop eating his fave food...dark chocolate )

keeping himself awake and not napping during the day has helped him to sleep better at night.

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Default Modafanil was a lifesaver to me

Modafanil was a lifesaver to me. I’ve been taking it a breakfast and lunch for several years. Requip had me so sedated during the day that it was a battle to stay awake. Requip helped my mobility to such a degree that there was no thought of dropping it. I couldn’t take any more than 2 doses of Modafinil per day as my face broke out in spots. Sinemet builds up in me as the day goes on and I get progressively more stimulated so by 11 pm I need Trazadone to sleep or else I’d still be puttering at 4am. Guy
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Guy,

I've been using trazodone for the last few weeks. It doesn't seem to work very well for me. It seems like it can take many hours for it to take effect. If I take it at 9:00 PM, I don't start to feel sleepy until about 3:00 AM. Then, I have trouble waking up and am drowsy for hours the next day. Sometimes it seems to have no effect whatsoever. For me, it seems that taking trazodone is worse than not taking it because of the side effects.

Have you had any problems like this with trazodone?

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Lightbulb Palliative medicine or actual healing ?

medicines can help but not when you are on one to combat the adverse reaction of another?
that is not at all a good idea... been there... a losing strategy...

why not heal the CNS -central nervous system -

the is from the National Parkinson's Foundation - the Nutrtionist


Parkinson's, B6, B12, and Folate - What's the Connection?

Kathrynne Holden, MS, RD
Copyright 2000


Ms. Holden is a registered dietitian specializing in Parkinson's disease. She has published research, books, articles, and manuals on nutrition and PD, including "Eat well, stay well with Parkinson's disease." She moderates the NPF forum Ask the Parkinson Dietitian.

In the past decade, there has been increasing interest amongresearchers about the effects of three B vitamins - B6, B12, and folate. We now know that deficiencies occur with greater frequency than ever suspected previously, particularly in older adults. We also now know that deficiencies, if not corrected, can result in irreversible damage in some people. Some health professionals are beginning to suspect that these three vitamins may be significant factors in Parkinson's disease.

What are B6, B12, and folate, and what do they do?

These are essential nutrients, meaning that they are vital to life. These three vitamins work both independently and together in many of the body's systems.

Vitamin B6 assists in making hormones, new proteins, and neurotransmitters ("messengers" between nerve cells) for the body's use. It also helps release stored sugar when we need it for fuel. It works together with B12 and folate to remove homocysteine from the blood. Homocysteine is a substance increasingly associated with a number of diseases; more about this later.

Vitamin B12 plays a role in the synthesis of DNA, needed for formationof new red blood cells. It takes part in the manufacture of the myelin sheath - the protective coating that surrounds nerve cells. With B6 and folate it removes homocysteine from the blood.

Folate, also called folacin or folic acid, is a partner with B12 in DNA synthesis and in removal of homocysteine, and is required in many other vital processes. Without folate, B12 would be unable to complete many of its functions, and vice versa. Folate is the form found in foods, folic acid is the form in dietary supplements.

How much do we need of these vitamins?

Nutrient needs are broken down by gender, age group, pregnancy, and lactation. New guidelines have also established a Tolerable Upper Intake Level. So, for example, while the RDA for vitamin B6 for males and females age 19-30 years is 1.3 mg/day, the Tolerable Upper Intake Level for both is 100 mg/day, making it easier to provide recommended amounts.

RDA* Tolerable Upper Intake Level ** +

Vitamin B6*** + 1.7 mg/day 100 mg/day (age 19 and older)

Vitamin B12 + 2.4 mcg/day Not Determined

Folate + 400 mcg/day 1000 mcg/day

* Recommended Dietary Allowance
** The Tolerable Upper Intake Level is the maximum level of daily nutrient intake that is likely to pose no risk of adverse effects, and represents the total intake from food, water, and supplements.
*** Adults age 51 and older
+ not applicable if pregnant or lactating

Why do deficiencies occur, and what are signs of deficiencies?

Vitamin B6. Mild deficiencies of B6 are fairly common in the U.S., mostly because of dietary deficiencies, but sometimes due to use of certain medications which interfere with B6, including hydralazine, isoniazid, MAO inhibitors, penicillamine, and theophylline. (Conversely, large amounts of B6 can interfere with the absorption of levodopa, an important medication for Parkinson's disease. Current use of the combinations of carbidopa-levodopa or benserazide-levodopa offset this interaction for the most part; but use of supplements containing more than 15 mg of B6 can overwhelm the protective effects of the carbidopa and benserazide.)

Good food sources of B6 include chicken, fish, eggs, nuts and seeds, dried beans and peas, soybeans, wheat germ, bananas, avocados, and brewer's yeast. Also, some foods, including a number of breakfast cereals, are fortified with B6.

Signs of B6 deficiency include irritability, depression, and confusion; sore tongue, sores or ulcers of the mouth, and ulcers of the skin at the corners of the mouth.

Vitamin B12. The human body stores this vitamin so well that it can take a long time to deplete, sometimes several years. Nevertheless, there are several reasons why people sometimes do experience deficiency. Animal foods are the only source of B12, therefore people who eat few or no animal products (meat, fish, poultry, eggs, milk) are at risk unless they use vitamin supplements.

Another problem is that B12 in foods cannot be absorbed by the bodyuntil it is freed from the proteins in the food; the stomach produces anacid that removes this protein. However, with age, we produce less and less of this stomach acid. Many older adults don't produce enough acid to allow them to absorb B12. Further, people who have acid reflux often use medications that reduce stomach acid, which unfortunately also decreases absorption of B12. Vitamin B12 is one of the few nutrients that is better absorbed in pill form than from dietary sources.

Signs of B12 deficiency include numbness or a tingling "pins andneedles" sensation, or a burning feeling; a red, sore, or burning tongue; loss of appetite; gait abnormalities, personality changes, an Alzheimer-like dementia, psychosis, depression, and agitation, particularly in older adults. Other signs are megaloblastic anemia, and
elevated serum homocysteine, in people of all ages. Researchers believe that as many as 42% of people aged 65 and older may have some degree of B12 deficiency. Many people with PD are age 65 or older, and should be
considered at risk and tested for B12 deficiency.

Folate. Folate is available in many foods: lima beans, brewer's yeast, orange juice, dried beans, green peas, asparagus, beets, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, corn, spinach and other dark green leafy vegetables, soybeans, nuts and seeds. Further, the U.S. government requires that food manufacturers fortify processed grain products with folic acid. Yet, deficiencies of folate are not uncommon. This could be in part because folate is another of the few nutrients in which the synthetic form is absorbed much better (about 40 percent better) than the natural form.

Because of the possibility of deficiency, women, including women with PD, who are pregnant or wish to become pregnant are advised to take supplements of folic acid; deficiencies can result in neural tube defects in the unborn child.

Deficiencies of folate are also being increasingly studied for a possible role in other diseases:

A low intake of folic acid is associated with risk for colon cancer. Chronic constipation, experienced by many people with PD, also increases risk for colon cancer; it is prudent for those with PD to control constipation and to be sure the diet is adequate in folate.

A low level of folic acid in the blood is associated with higher levels of serum homocysteine, a substance in the blood that may contribute to heart disease, stroke, and dementias.

Animal studies point to a link between low levels of folic acid and Alzheimer's disease; and people with Alzheimer's are often found to have low levels of folic acid. Some people with PD develop an Alzheimer-type dementia. Again, prudence dictates consumption of adequate folate.

Another study using mice found that folic acid deficiency led to increased levels of homocysteine and symptoms of Parkinson's disease. Researchers speculate that homocysteine may damage DNA in the substantia nigra, the area of the brain affected in Parkinson's disease.

There are reports of improvement in restless leg syndrome (RLS) with use of folate supplements; this has not as yet been studied thoroughly, so it is too early to say whether there is a definite link. However, people with PD often complain of RLS, and physicians should rule out the possibility of folic acid deficiency. Signs of folic acid deficiency include appetite loss, weight loss, burning tongue, fatigue, weakness, shortness of breach, memory loss, irritability, megaloblastic anemia, and increased levels of serum homocysteine.

Should people with PD be concerned about these vitamins?

Although there are concerns, as mentioned above, that deserve further study, it's too early to say definitely that these three vitamins are of significance to people with PD. However, if you are over age 50 these vitamins are of importance independently of PD. Furthermore, studies have demonstrated that some people who use levodopa, considered the best medication for PD, develop elevated levels of serum homocysteine, due to the way in which the medication is metabolized. It is certainly a good idea to ask your doctor to test levels of serum homocysteine annually, and to check for signs of B vitamin deficiencies.

Should you take supplements?

There is growing agreement that older adults are at risk for nutrient deficiency, whether PD is present or not, and that supplements can help.

One study of older adults found that a multivitamin containing 100% of the Daily Value improved low levels of several nutrients, including vitamins B6, B12, and folate.

A recent study in the United Kingdom suggests that folic acid intake should be about three times that of the current recommendation for elderly people.

Other studies indicate that up to 10% of older adults with low-normal levels of B12 are actually deficient and could benefit from supplements. Because folate supplements can mask a B12 deficiency, it becomes extra important to get enough B12 daily.

The American Heart Association recommends a folate-rich diet to lower homocysteine levels, and supplements of 2 mg B6, 400 mcg folic acid, and 6 mcg of B12 if dietary means are not sufficient to lower the homocysteine.

For people with PD who use a medication that contains levodopa (such as Sinemet, Madopar, Syndopa, Larodopa, etc.), you should be aware that large amounts of vitamin B6 (more than 15 mg) can affect the absorption of levodopa, by converting levodopa to dopamine in the stomach and bloodstream. Dopamine cannot cross the blood-brain barrier, so it iseffectively blocked from its purpose.

Sinemet and Madopar contain either carbidopa or benserazide, which "protect" the levodopa from B6; so ordinary supplements of B6 should not be a problem for most people. However, very large amounts of B6, greater than 15 mg (and in sensitive persons, possibly as low as 10 mg), could overwhelm the protective effects of the carbidopa or benserazide. Such a supplement should be taken at bedtime with a light snack, or with meals at least two hours separately from levodopa.

In summary, older adults are acknowledged to be at increased risk for B vitamin deficiencies. People with PD who are age 50 and over, therefore, are at increased risk also. Whether younger people with PD should be concerned about such deficiencies remains to be seen. A prudent and rational approach for all those with PD is to:

Discuss the possibility with their physicians, and to request tests for B vitamin deficiencies

Be aware of the signs of B vitamin deficiency

Take a multivitamin/mineral supplement daily. Unless anemic, choose a supplement that does not contain iron

Take a B complex supplement if deficiencies occur; and take the supplement separately from levodopa by at least two hours, preferably with meals or a snack.

Knowledge is strength; awareness of dietary needs can prevent illness, malnutrition, suffering, and hospitalization. If you have questions about

B vitamins or other nutrition or dietary needs, please visit
the National Parkinson Foundation website:
www.parkinson.org

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I think the success rate with Modafinil over on my narcolepsy forum is about 25%. It totally depends on the person.

It made me MORE sleepy.

For the record, nicotine activates the same areas of the brain as orexin. You may want to try the patches. Take them off at dinnertime, or they will give you extremely weird dreams.
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