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Old 02-12-2008, 08:55 AM #1
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This is the end of week one and so far no change. I'm continuing the experiment
until the end of March. I'm designing a new head band (holds LEDs in place) to cover a larger area.

I've estimated that the power from each LED is 10mwatt/cm2 which should be enough to cause some kind of response. What I don't know is how important the wavelength (1072 vs 940nm) is.

Hope I have better news at the end of the experiment.

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Artman i MUST point out after checking a detailed article on using infra red leds you MUST either use it in the dark or block out ambient light using a helmet which is dark on the inside.

I saw the paper last week but forgot to mention it here and cant remember the url but i think got it by typing 1072 nm leds in google...

Ambient light MUST be excluded for those 10 minutes when using th infra red light.

A possible crude analogy might be developing photographic film in a dark room using red light but also having turning on normal light bulb on as well,the film developing will be ruined...

if you look at the picture of the helmet you will see it black inside also to prevent REFLECTED infra red light also from interfering with the infra red light emitted from the leds.Otherwise you could easily double the infra red intensity by silvering the inside of the helmet.

Could you give more information as to how the leds were used in the first week regarding position and also if ambient light was excluded or not...
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:42 AM #2
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Their patent states that the LEDs should be placed on exposed skin. That's the area that they have tested. Light scatters or diffuses in the hair, so the areas that you're exposing to LEDs to might need to be shaved a little.

Per the article, "It will be appreciated that the apparatus of the invention can be used to direct light to via the transcutaneous transosseous route of the skull but that areas of the skull substantially bereft of hair, such as the forehead/frontal lobes and/or temple regions are the preferred sites to receive light because the presence of hair can reduce and/or scatter the light and effect the power intensity at the treatment site. "
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:29 PM #3
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Default One way to avoid the loss of light

I'm sure that many of you may not wish to shave little areas of hair to expose these areas to LED light. What you might try is putting a lens on the LEDs. Some of the LED companies like Maurbeni have lens which can be placed on the LED to improve it's intensity. It's analagous to focusing the light through a magnifying glass. Just a thought for an alternative method. Naturally the area of the skull that you wish to expose for Parkinson's has the most hair, so you might have to shave a small spot for LED application.

You don't have to get fancy on the material to make the area dark. You could probably make something cheap out of black material to cover the LED and scalp region, and sit in a dark room while doing the treatment. Remember to cover your eyes during the treatment.

All healing takes time. If you were severely injured and had to take physical therapy, it often took months to get back "some" function. I know, I've been through that process.

The article claims some rather astounding results, so I'm a bit wary. Even with that reservation, if it does manage to foster new neuron growth, the brain might take time to rewire interconnections (the dendrites between neurons). In the case of Parkinson's, not only would the neurons have to rergow, but also produce the amounts of dopamine that you would need to properly function.

Please continue all of your pharmacalogical treatments and normal medical care while using this alternative medical procedure. If you noticed that you need less Sinemet after trying this for several months, wouldn't that be interesting in itself?

In the end, we'll need extensive clinical studies, and PETs and MRIs post-treatment in order to show evidence of efficacy.
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Old 02-12-2008, 05:00 PM #4
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Now that I have a post count of 10, maybe the forum robot will let me post the URLs. I am not affiliated with any of the companies or websites. I'm only posting the information since it is very cutting edge. I'm a medical sstudent, and I am thinking of making one myself.

Here is the patent application:
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?...4&DISPLAY=DESC

Here is a link to a LED array that someone might alter with the proper LED wavelength. You would need to replace the existing LEDs and wire in a power source. Probably a cheap dc power supply.
http://www.mcminone.com/product.asp?...ds&ATT=froogle

Here is a company that sells LED therapy devices, cheaply by the way. Remember that for skin conditions the recommended wavelength is 850nm, for neuro use a wavelength of 1720nm is needed, so you would have to order the proper LEDs and solder them in prior to use.
http://heelspurs.com/cgi-bin/c/store...ct=LED_Therapy

Here is the company that sells the proper LEDs and lens in the USA:
http://tech-led.com/index.shtml


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Artman i MUST point out after checking a detailed article on using infra red leds you MUST either use it in the dark or block out ambient light using a helmet which is dark on the inside.

I saw the paper last week but forgot to mention it here and cant remember the url but i think got it by typing 1072 nm leds in google...

Ambient light MUST be excluded for those 10 minutes when using th infra red light.

A possible crude analogy might be developing photographic film in a dark room using red light but also having turning on normal light bulb on as well,the film developing will be ruined...

if you look at the picture of the helmet you will see it black inside also to prevent REFLECTED infra red light also from interfering with the infra red light emitted from the leds.Otherwise you could easily double the infra red intensity by silvering the inside of the helmet.

Could you give more information as to how the leds were used in the first week regarding position and also if ambient light was excluded or not...
Esecallum I believe the information comes from the original patent. I'm having a problem rationalizing why the irradiated area needs to be covered since the body is opaque to visible light.

I'm presently irradiating the back of the head with 15 LEDs now for 30 minutes twice per day. The new improved version will probably block more of the environmental light.
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Ciao to Everybody,
sorry for my bad english. My mother has got Alzheimer and I read this article. Please, is there anybody who can tell me exactly how to make it at home? In the simplest way of course.. I went to the sites that sell the leds.. but if I buy the leds.. then what have I got to do?
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Did you finished the experiment because i am going to do that wich 15 led 1070 and 680 940nm my mother she is suffering dementia i do have background in electronic so maybe you can teld me about your proyect
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For information

Having elderly relative just diagnosed with early stages of dementia, I decided to call Restorelite, to see where they are with this device.

Apparently, red tape in the UK was delaying the clinical trials, and the cost of going through the trials was escalting, so they halted the process.

Trials are about to commence in the US. If these are successful, they will try to come back to the UK and get licensed here.
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Having elderly relative just diagnosed with early stages of dementia, I decided to call Restorelite, to see where they are with this device.

Apparently, red tape in the UK was delaying the clinical trials, and the cost of going through the trials was escalting, so they halted the process.

Trials are about to commence in the US. If these are successful, they will try to come back to the UK and get licensed here.
Funding is too big a problem for this project. Lots of investors willing to fund post FDA approval, just not before.
This technology does work, the problem is you need to keep using it as the root cause of the neuro degenerative condition remains.
840 leds in 10 units, fan cooled, with timer etc. You wont build a sucessful one for cheap. IF and only if 1072nm gets the right financial backing, it may become available in the USA, but most likely never in the UK. 50 years after its discovery and we still are not putting it to the best use for those who need it, which btw does a wonderful job on Parkinsons.
Another sad occassion when a safe (7 years of led research) alternative to drugs gets sidelined.
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Last year when I was in China for a major medical devices show I saw the helmet similar as you described. It seems to me devices (from China) are much easier to have CE label than 510K here if required...
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