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Old 03-05-2008, 08:53 AM #1
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Default Ginseng - Final Rat Report

I'm moving on to other trials and thought it time to summarize my impressions about the "sang". I have been usng it for eight or nine months and feel that it has helped me tremendously.

After taking timing of the various elements into account, I credit it with the following improvements - yes, improvements - in my condition. These are not short term effects that occur only when I take the herb. They seem to be true changes that I attribute to growth of neuronal tissues. If true, that is one hell of a statement that I just made. It isn't supposed to happen.

Beginning about two months ago, I began to be aware of the following gradual changes that had taken place. Note that that gradual dawning is exactly the pattern one would expect if repair was taking place.
1) Severe and frequent nocturnal trips to empty bladder have disappeared. I was regularly up six to eight times per night. Now one max.
2) Bowel function. Improved from once weekly to three to five weekly.
3) Sleep. Was four to six hours per night. Now six to eight.
4) Turning in bed. Was a problem but no longer.
5) This one takes a little explaining. I have a very basic biofeedback monitor that measure heart rate variability. That serves as a sort of peephole into the non-conscious part of your nervous system. Mine was a flat line output when it should have been rolling waves. It has improved and approaches normal.
6) Blood pressure. I have been on medication for years and when I would stop it I would run up to as high as 180/115. I have not taken any medication for two to three months now and average 125/75. Again, the non-conscious part of the nervous system.
7) I also discontinued deprynl/selegeline in early winter.

I can only speculate as to what has happened, but I am very pleased.

I am going to add in gingko and mucuna now, so I wanted to preserve this before things get muddier. Ginseng is purported to be good for chronic stress and ginkgo for acute stress, so their pairing makes sense. Time will tell. Squeak! Squeak!
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Which type(tea, pill, etc.) and brand do you recommend for Ginseng, and why that one?
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Hiya Rick Rat

I am also interested in what form you may be using of ginseng (panax species I assume, yes?) are you on liquid extract or capsule or the actual root?
Tho my hubby doesnt have PD, he sure has had some other probs that seem to have been alleviated for you, so am interested in researching some more.

of course with full pointers to the medical disclaimer at the bottom of each page here at NT
and will ask his doc first for possible side effects with meds etc

I found this on it at iHerb's Natural Encyclopedia Panax Ginseng Info
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I have been using panax species and "red" which refers to the way it is processed. It is the ground root in capsule form. The brand, solely because it is what the local health food store had when I first looked for it, is "Root to Herb".

I tried the liquid in the cute ampules first and felt no effect at all.

The only side effect I ran across is blurred vision when I took too much.
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Hi Rick
on behalf of my hubby I want to say thanks for posting your experience with the ginseng

his "going problem" has become much improved after just 3 days on the panax red ginseng capsules, and he feels he is already seeing a number of other
positive things. His doc saw no problem in him trying it either provided he stick to the recommended dose and continue the meds he is currently on for now.

thanks again!

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Default Thanks for the feedback Chemar

Glad it is helping. Does he have PD or some other affliction?

And did I warn about the increased libido?
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HEY REV.
How much Ginseng are you taking each day? Thanks for sharing your experment with the rest of the forum. What does your neuro. say about your suppliments? Thanks again.
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2X400 mg - went as high as 4x but felt weird so backed off.

My neuro? "don't want to know" As a result she was very pleased that the drugs were working so well last visit, particularly the one i quit weeks earlier.
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Default I take it too among other supplement

..I remember reading research on mice supporting its +ve role in PD.. I think it solved lack of energy problem for me..
Thank you Rick for providng confident report on its benefits
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great site worth adding to favourites. Much valued info. Ginseng 1 excellent as well
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