[Fiona]

Here's one for ya - do any of you who have been on PD meds for a LONG time - like 10-12 years plus, have any experience with safe cleaning out methods recently? I'm talking abolut colonics, or juice fasts, chelation, even saunas etc....I already had my amalgam fillings replaced long ago. But given how long I have been on the meds, my doctor says that he thinks it is not advisable to do anything that might 'stress' the body and thereby upset some unknown systematic weakness....and I think he might have a point. I get terrified of ever even throwing up because it dumps all the meds out of my system and sets me up for violent and scary dystonia....

But with all these meds circulating through me, and a probably not optimally functioning digestive tract, it feels like it would do me a world of good to clean out some, and probably make everything work better. I do daily gentle abdominal massage and feel that helps a little keeping everything stimulated and moving - in fact self massage all over, including the face every morning, is great way to keep your tissues alive. Any other thoughts?

[imark3000]

Originally Posted by Fiona

Here's one for ya - do any of you who have been on PD meds for a LONG time - like 10-12 years plus, have any experience with safe cleaning out methods recently? I'm talking abolut colonics, or juice fasts, chelation, even saunas etc....I already had my amalgam fillings replaced long ago. But given how long I have been on the meds, my doctor says that he thinks it is not advisable to do anything that might 'stress' the body and thereby upset some unknown systematic weakness....and I think he might have a point. I get terrified of ever even throwing up because it dumps all the meds out of my system and sets me up for violent and scary dystonia....

But with all these meds circulating through me, and a probably not optimally functioning digestive tract, it feels like it would do me a world of good to clean out some, and probably make everything work better. I do daily gentle abdominal massage and feel that helps a little keeping everything stimulated and moving - in fact self massage all over, including the face every morning, is great way to keep your tissues alive. Any other thoughts?

I have no answer to your question but I follow most of your posts .. your intellect shines .. I am sorry that you had to take all these medicines and hope you will manage to reduce them gradually
I feel that we, who have discovered this forum before taking the "formal" drugs, are lucky to be encouraged to follow alternative paths ..
I think that what lies at the root of the problem is a culture which requires a quick fix to illness because Illness is not accepted as a natural phenomenon like health .. we have grown up with low threshhold of tolerance to the pain and dscomfort of illness and we are not ready to modify our life style which requires us to be achievers no matter how much stress this brings
Personaly: I am trying a "yogi" style of life ..accepting PD symtoms like a fate..avoiding stress at any cost ... and trying to survive with minimum drugs.

[reverett123]

More than you want to know - http://curezone.com/cleanse/bowel/default.asp
Haven't tried it myself yet. However, there is a children's section as well as adult. I presume it is gentler.

I think the GI factor is probably the most overlooked piece of the puzzle. Back on BT we polled about 15 or so of us and fully half remembered constipation as a problem when they were kids. That seems very high for a young active population. And constipation is a common plague for PWP.

Then add in inflammation, also a big factor for PD. And the smae things that affect the endothelial cells of the BBB also affect the similar barrier at the GI interface.

So we have all that "sludge" full of toxins moving at a snail's pace along a leaky pipe. We wouldn't want that pipe crossing our front lawn! Yet, it leaks into the streams that end up in our brain.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist....

[lou_lou]

dear fiona,
I drink one cup daily...
*research this I drink fruit of the earth aloe vera juice.
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