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Old 10-24-2006, 08:02 AM #1
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He still doesn't get it.

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<A id=0002>Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. All right, then I stand corrected. I've seen him on Boston Legal. I've seen him on a number of stand-up appearances. I know he's got it; it's pitiable that he has the disease. It is a debilitating disease, and I understand that fully. Just stick with me on this.

All I'm saying is I've never seen him the way he appears in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act, especially since people are telling me they have seen him this way on other interviews and in other television appearances.

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<A id=0007>Let me just say this about it. The reason I went and grabbed the audio from John Edwards, where he said in 2004 on the campaign trail, "If we can do the work that we can do in this country, the work we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." That was about stem cells, and that was a misleading statement, and it didn't work for the Breck Girl, implying that if it weren't for George W. Bush and his stubbornness on stem cells that we've got a cure for spinal deterioration and injury, and we don't. We do not have anywhere near a cure. We can't we regenerate nerves yet, folks, and that's what has to happen to cure paralysis in the spine. Stem cells do not promise any such thing, nor do they for Parkinson's disease. So the reason that I went and got the Breck Girl to compare it to Michael J. Fox is because I think the intent here is the thing. I think, if I may be blatantly honest, brazenly so, I think this is much more offensive than Hillary's Senate opponent implying that she's ugly.

Michael J. Fox is allowing his illness to be exploited and in the process is shilling for a Democrat politician. In the process of doing that, creating an impression like John Edwards tried to do that is not reality. Michael J. Fox is using his illness as a way to mislead voters into thinking that their vote for a single United States Senator has a direct impact on stem cell research in Missouri. It doesn't, and it won't. So Mr. Fox is using his illness as another tactic to try to secure the election of a Democrat senator by implying that with her election, that we'll be on the road to stem cell research her opponent opposes and people who suffer from Parkinson's disease as he does will have a cure. It's a negative ad, and negative ads work, and people criticize them all the time as I am doing to this one, but when you see it, there's something wrong about it in the get-go. It's the exploitation of someone's illness. I wonder if this would become a trend and all kinds of illness were being exploited how people would end up reacting to it and feeling about it. So if this was not an act, then I apologize. I've not seen this type of appearance by Michael J. Fox before and that's why it struck me the way it did. But despite all that, I mean it's pitiable and it's very sad anybody has this disease, because it is debilitating in ways that people that don't have it don't even understand. But to exploit it like this in misrepresenting the political agenda of a particular candidate, there's nothing admirable about that.

BREAK TRANSCRIPTI must share this. I have gotten a plethora of e-mails from people saying Michael J. Fox has admitted in interviews that he goes off his medication for Parkinson's disease when he appears before Congress or other groups as a means of illustrating the ravages of the disease. So lest there be any misunderstanding, we talked about a half hour ago of the commercial that's running for Claire McCaskill featuring Michael J. Fox on what appears to be when he's off his meds. I have never seen him this way and I stated when I was commenting to you about it that he was either off his medication or acting. He is an actor after all, and started hearing from people, "Oh, no, I've seen him on TV this way, this is how the disease has affected him when he's not on his medications." Then the e-mails started coming in saying he's admitted not to taking them in certain circumstances so as to illustrate how the disease affects people. All of which I understand, and I'm not even critical of that. Parkinson's disease is hideous.

Let me just stress once again in what I said in closing this out, that I think this is exploitative in a way that's unbecoming either Claire McCaskill or Michael J. Fox, because in this commercial for Claire McCaskill he's using his illness in a way to mislead voters that there's a cure for Parkinson's disease if only Claire McCaskill gets elected, if only Jim Talent is defeated. And of course it's all about stem cell research, which is a huge ballot initiative in Missouri anyway. I'm sorry, Missoura. He pronounced it Missoura. There are two ways to pronounce my home state, Missouri and Missoura. And Missoura, in certain sectors is the preferred pronunciation. It is a way to relate to certain Missourans. We never say Missourans, we say Missourians. But it's a way to reach out, "I understand you, I know your state" and so forth. There's a lot of politics in the commercial. But Mr. Fox was allowing his illness to be used as a tactic to trying to secure the election of a Democrat senator who is going to somehow, her election is going to lead to the cure for Parkinson disease via stem cell research because her opponent, Jim Talent, opposes it, which is not true. He may oppose embryonic stem cell research, does not oppose adult stem cell research or even cord blood, I don't believe, research, umbilical cord research.

The comparison is obvious, and that is to the Breck Girl, John Edwards, who did the same thing by saying Christopher Reeve will walk again if only John Kerry is elected because we will do the work that needs to be done. And that kind of thing, when you start making false promises to people who suffer from diseases like this that are horrible and debilitating, when you start telling them that there's a cure right around the corner if only somebody gets elected, you are misleading them, you are creating a creating a false-hope scenario, and that is cruel, if you ask me, that is cruel and it is mean to lead people to believe that we are much further along in research than we are. There's nobody involved in the research who is saying we're anywhere near any kind of a cure for spinal disease, paralysis, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's. In fact, the closest we are to Alzheimer's is nicotine. I mean supposedly nicotine will limit or lessen the impact of Alzheimer's down the road. And now they're also saying it about pot, the evil weed.

So let there be no misunderstanding about this. I stand corrected, did not know and had never seen Michael J. Fox in the way I saw him in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. But people have and have seen him say in interviews that he doesn't take his medications when he wants to make an impression to show people just how horrible the disease is. And it's true of all Parkinson's patients. At some point the medication will not work, and the condition will become permanent, and there's nothing pleasant about it. It's one of the most frustrating diseases one can have. Pope had it. It's not pleasant in any way, shape, manner, or form, nor did I mean to implicate that one could easily act it out for the purposes of a commercial.

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Old 10-24-2006, 09:05 AM #2
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But he does "get it". He knows exactly what he is saying and why he is saying it.

This makes me even more grateful for MJF and the work he does on our behalf.
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yeah you are right. Well the media has it now I just saw it on cable news.


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Default It must be working

Limbaugh and his cronies must be worried that the ad is helping this candidate. Why else launch a vicious, politically motivated attack such as this?
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Sounds like an apology wrapped up in an insult
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Perfect description, Steve!
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Sounds like an apology wrapped up in an insult
in my dad's words on rush's comments..." "spam sandwich" looks good from the outside....but one taste and you know you've been had."
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Default But......

I see nothing wrong with exploiting one's own illness for a good cause - including a political cause.
M.J.F is not exploiting his and our illness by his appearances, but if he did exploit it, he would be perfectly justified.
Exploiting children, the aged, the ill is wrong, but exploitng the nasty illness that is crippling yourself is perfectly acceptable. It is one of the very few ways in which having the illness can be used to the advantage of its sufferers.

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BIrte I completely agree and just sent another email:

Mr. Limbaugh,

By explaining your apology as coming from "people who have seen him like that" is completely skirting the actual truth.

1. As stated in a previous email, what you see in those PSAs are medication side effects - not being off meds.

2. If he were off meds, whch he has admitted to doing way back when he was far less along in this progressive disease, he would be mask -faced, wouldn't be able to walk unassisted, completely rigid and cramped, speech would be affected...this is what Parkinson's looks like when OFF meds. Intermittent VIOLENT tremors would accompany. Here the problem is inability to move.

3. What you are seeing in the ads is Dyskinesia - which is a medication side effect almost as debilitating as the illness. Here the problem is excessive movement.

4. You are confusing showing an example of an illness and a genuine right to express support for candidates who can help his cause [isn't that what we do in America?} with exploitation of the illness.

Your apology needs to acknowledge that Michael was on his med.

And please stop using the word "pitiable".
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Mr. Limbaugh,

You have no idea at all what you are saying when you speak of Michael J. Fox exploiting his Parkinson's Disease by appearing before Congress and on television unmedicated. If Mr. Fox really were to do as you say, he would be unable to sit in a chair, unable to speak, all but unable to move voluntarily at all. Parkinson's Disease is a progressive, incurable PARALYSIS.
At Mr. Fox's stage of the illness it is not just arms and legs that are affected, the heart, the circulation the whole system suffers, and it is dangerous not to take the medicine on a regular schedule.
The constant movement you witness when Mr. Fox is on television is CAUSED by the medication not by the illness.
The medicine available to us today allows us to move for a number of years longer than we would be able to without it. But the movement comes with a cost, because one of the medicine's side effects is dyskinesia, which means UNCONTROLLABLE MOVEMENT.
So eat your sanctimonious outrage and apologize to Mr. Fox and to all of us who know first hand how Mr. Fox feels when he rocks and flails. He is a brave man, a good man, a far better man than you.

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10 years of Parkinson's Disease and still hoping for a cure.

Rush is a slippery one, Paula, I heard him once give a raspberry to someone whose argument was so brilliant that Rush was lost for a counter argument. And he managed to make the raspberry derisive, as if the argument had not been worthy if an answer.
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