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Lightbulb BigPharma do you trust them?



still poisoning us - this was on the market from the Bayer corp

"From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children. Bayer marketed heroin as a cure for morphine addiction before it was discovered that heroin is converted to morphine when metabolized in the liver. The company was somewhat embarrassed by this new finding and it became a historical blunder for Bayer."
or was it a blunder? perhaps a way to get people addicted to the product for what else? hmmm - Money?
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Arrow Merck -and Flouride Poisoning Etc

THEY KNEW -
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Fluoride Risks
RISK #1 Fluoridation is cancer-causing, cancer-promoting, and is linked to increased cancer rates in rats, mice, and humans.77
RISK #2 Hip fracture rates are substantially higher in people residing in fluoridated communities.78
RISK #3 Dental fluorosis, the first visible sign of fluoride poisoning, affects from 8% to 51% of the children drinking fluoridated water and has substantially increased over the last 40 years.79
RISK #4 All of the recent large-scale studies on fluoridation and tooth decay show that fluoridation does not reduce tooth decay.80
RISK #5 Fluoride drops and tablets are not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as safe or effective.81
RISK #6 Fluoride exposure and dental fluorosis are linked to lower IQ and neurological impairment.82
RISK #7 The citizens of America are already overdosed with fluoride.83
Children during growth accumulate fluoride more rapidly in their bones than adults. Systemic exposure to fluoride during tooth
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31 -cANCER & genetic damage
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Default Dear Tena.

You know that I was "one of the enemy" for the majority of my working life, and I know that you are a wonderful "watchdog" of the biopharms, wanting only to protect us from their at times obvious depredations. And that is GOOD.
However, sometimes golden rings are found at the sewage treatment plants:!
Shall we call them a necessary evil?
YES, there is GREED, way, way,much too much GREED
And let it be known that as they bloat with more money every year, their contributions to curing disese are less and less.
But there is one (or two) lonely nerds/ nerdettes( read GENIUSES), working 12 hour days in the steaming, bowels of a great ediface of biopharma, underfunded and ridiculed; daily made to kiss the golden ring, then paternalistically shoowed away from the hall of the Armani suits to ensure another day, unfettered from their continuance at their endeavours, that will one day lead to our emancipation from PD.
That's the way it works, I'm afraid my dear (please, no sexism or other inuendos intended on my part, with the "my dear" comment, Tena is a good friend of mine). Away from the glitter; the lies and half-truths; the hysteric traders on the floor of yet another of the gleaming power towers, REAL science is taking place, and one day, the unsung inventors of our cause will be paraded and hailed as heroes by the same bean counters who just last month told the same shy researchers that their electric usage was too high and needed trimming, or, in lieu also of no new raises that year, the tools of their trade would be at risk for the axe.
Unfortunately, this melodramatic description of what is going on behind the sturdy gates of the biopharm giants is getting ever more closer to the truth, as older inventions come to the end of their "managed life cycle" with no new, even marginally improved "me too's" in their pipelines, and even fewer holy grail "blockbusters to take their places.
The reasons for the slack state of affairs in the pharm industry are many; in the midst of the last great war, there was an attitude among research companies, that their very CEO, or a member of his immediate family could find their very lives at stake. There were fewer rules and regulations, that subsequent decades have hamstrung inventive freedoms with (now it costs astronomical, completely unnecessary amounts of money to destroy "hazardous" chemicals, that are just "reactive"; and if thrown against a brick wall out back of the facilities produce only water or other innocuous by-products as the "hazardous waste", while the really bad (silent) actors get thrown down the drain).
All quiet on the home front (except for spending billions on making sure that "best in their field" researchers are kept out of the loop because they happen to have have had the misfortune of coming from the university of Tehran) has lulled us into a near torpor as far as ingenuity and a sense of urgency and CARE has been generated due to too many 6 figure salaries of "ineffective mangers" and even modestly productive workers, who earn twice as much as the real movers and shakers just because they started working when they disembarked from the ARK.
There are many more reasons for the years ticking by with no great success in some facets of medicine. I could quote things both correct and incorrect as far as one person can do, But I take my pardons with the REAL excuse that I am now weak, amotivated, losing perspective and downright just dead tired and having fully accepted my own personal fate.
One last line, if I may. For the just diagnosed, please don't take my personal ravings to heart. There IS GREAT HOPE for you. PLEASE, PLEASE, don't be disheartened by one PWP that has many other issues, along with PD. YOUR TIME WILL COME, even though it may, just may be slipping away for SOME of US. HAVE FAITH, for without faith, nothing will change for the better. G'night.
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No if this next story is anything to go by. This will increase your stress levels folks. A deep breath and Read on.....................

The Next Big Drug Scandal Puts You in Danger

The Wall Street Journal is calling it “Vytoringate”.

In an effort to prove that their Vytorin is effective at reducing the arterial plague that leads to heart disease, Merck/Schering-Plough conducted its own study on 750 patients. Much to Merck’s disappointment, the study found that Vytorin was instead effective at doubling the growth rate of arterial plaque!

So what did Merck do? They first hung on to the results, knowing full well sales and prescriptions of the drug would plummet as soon as the public found out.

And the organizations America trusts, the AHA and the ACC, both made statements giving a supportive tone concerning Vytorin and the ENHANCE trial. This has Congress looking into any financial ties that exist between them and Merck.

As if that wasn’t enough, it looks like the SEC is getting involved too. Turns out top executives at Merck sold 900,000 shares of company stock worth $28 million—before the ENHANCE trial went public.

Big Pharma Hid the Facts - Again

This is not the first time drug companies have hidden the facts they didn’t want you to know about.

Take GlaxoSmithKline for instance…who in 2004 was found guilty of hiding negative trial results of their anti-depressant Paxil. Turns out Paxil didn’t do anything more for depression than a placebo did. Plus it increased the risk of suicide for those taking it. They held on to the information for up to four years before it became known.

A recent study published in New England Journal of Medicine found nearly a third of the 74 industry-sponsored studies of antidepressants they examined were not published, most of which showed negative outcomes for the drug involved.

Positive results were 12 times more likely to be published. And negative results were purposely written to show a favorable outcome. Put into perspective, of all the articles published, 94% show a positive outcome. But on further inspection by the FDA, only half were actually positive.

The Journal of the American Medical Association published a study as far back as 2004, stating that the reporting of trial outcomes are frequently biased and overstate the benefits.

Who Can you Trust?
Even doctors are misled by the drug companies into thinking the drugs they’re prescribing are safe for their patients.

This is because once a drug receives FDA approval, it’s pretty much a done deal. Drug companies are required to share any findings they get from studies to the FDA, but the FDA can’t share the information with the public. It’s because the study findings are considered “proprietary” information that belong to the drug companies.

To counter-act this, Congress recently passed a new law, requiring drug companies to share all their findings. But there’s one problem.

They’ve given them two years from the end date of the studies to make the information public. Critics are pointing out how even this new law wouldn’t have stopped the Vytoringate scandal.

Nature’s “Vytorin”…But Better

Nature has a substance that can do exactly what Vytorin was supposed to do. It’s called folic acid and researchers have known about it for years.

See, Merck/SP was looking to prove Vytorin effective by looking at how much it reduced the intima-media thickness of the carotid artery. The higher the thickness, the more likely a negative cardiovascular event such as heart attack, or stroke.

Recent studies show that folic acid supplementation significantly reduces the intima-media thickness of the carotid artery.

Another study, published in the prestigious British medical journal, The Lancet, found that folic acid reduces the risk of first stroke by as much as 18%.5 Had Vytorin created results like these, Merck/Schering-Plough would be headed for a bigger payday.

But there’s a bigger problem at work here. Mainstream medicine and the drug companies have got it all wrong. They’re looking in the wrong places to find a solution to heart disease. They look to cholesterol as the panacea of curing heart disease. And they’re missing the biggest indicators of heart disease, which isn’t high cholesterol, or even LDL cholesterol.

The two big indicators they’re completely ignoring are homocysteine and C-Reactive protein (CRP). But the links between them and heart disease are too strong to ignore.

One study found that levels of homocysteine were dramatically higher in men who died from heart attacks. They discovered that men with high levels were four times more likely to suffer a fatal heart attack than those with lower levels.

And guess what? Folic acid can significantly reduce levels of homocysteine in the blood stream.

The other indicator, C-Reactive protein, isn’t given enough attention.

The New England Journal of Medicine published a massive study on CRP. Almost 28,000 people participated in the trial. Researchers tried to predict cardiac events like heart attack and stroke by looking at LDL cholesterol and CRP levels in the blood. They found that CRP predicted cardiac events better than LDL cholesterol did. Here again, folic acid is proven to reduce levels of CRP. To get the benefits from folic acid..........

Part of a weekly report by rising US Physician Dr Al Sear
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Trophy Thank you -dear CS

I thank you - Bigpharma corporate - they are the unethical -
I have met many extremely brilliant individual's like you, and doctors who truly care, but what happens is all their brilliant ideas are suppressed
by men and women of horrid greed and the power that corrupts absolute...
I have seen it done -and you my dear cs -have experienced the absolute inconceivable thought what they do to the brilliant ones...
you have helped me more than yoou will ever know -as you express the
sadness in your heart -that I can not put into words as eloquent as you do...


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Thumbs up thankyou -Howard...

dear Howard,
it's a damnshame -what could have been if the corpoorate Asszez at Bigpharma -should have done -but for their love of money - not a humane
care for the hurting hearts of this WORLD...
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There are PD Associations which draw some of their monetary support from the pharmaceutical industry. I'd rather they didn't do that. Nevertheless, I have benefited from those Associations/Groups and they have, in some indirect ways, brought me to the position where I have been able to get off PD drug therapy.

Early on in my dx I attended a conference, sponsored by Orion Pharma, where I saw a video of the most extreme worst case scenario of how PD can affect a person. I think it was highly insensitive to show that video to a roomful of 500 people, many of whom, like myself, were just coming to terms with their dx. It was like standing at the gates of hell and having a good look in, and being told, "Ok now, that's where *you're* headed".

FYI, it was the video of before and after GDNF treatment. What made the big impression on me, was not how great GDNF is, since you can't judge that from a video clip where you can't measure sustainability of effect - but the horrific damage that long term l-dopa treatment brings about in terms of dyskinesia. This was my first inkling of this.

I immediately developed a worsening of my PD sx from that moment, from the sheer terror of the future that was being held up in front of me. I felt very aggrieved - at the pharma industry, the medical establishment and my local PD Assoc - in about equal measure. My daughter, then aged 20, was with me. We were both so sick with fear from what we saw that we walked out of the conference.

I later contacted the PD Assoc and asked if they knew this video clip was going to be shown. They said no, and agreed that it was irresponsible to show it to an open group, including newly dx'd patients and their families. I am sure there were family members, potential or designated 'carers' of PWPs present, who were making good their escape plans the minute those images were flashed up on the screen. Thank the Gods and Goddesses, my own children are made of stronger stuff than that.

Resentful as I still feel about that day and how things transpired, it motivated me to seek other ways of addressing my health issues and it alerted me to the iatrogenic effects of drugs in general and PD drugs in particular, that I might not otherwise have discovered until it was too late.

Good doctors, good pharmacists, good chemists [and yes we know there are ones who are not good] struggle to find ways to warn people of the potential and sometimes inevitable dangers of drug therapy without terrifying them. Terror in itself causes disease. That's why it's called dis - ease [a loss/disconnect from ease/comfort, facility with something, ability to do/act].

Thank you Tena, for asking such an important question.
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Heart dear Muirean,

dear one,
I believe it is a conflict of interests we should sue the FDA and the CDC,
and all that are paid off by this greedy/ killing machine -called bigpharma/
aka bigdruglordsassociation!

I call Bigpharma = Pandora's bottle/ "the bane of my existence"
Pandora's greek mythology she never had a box -yet it was a jar...
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~loxias/pandora.htm
see links
http://pandora.com/ -this is music of the genome?


I am sorry -that bigpharma could care less about the hurting of hearts -of PD patients or any patients et al...like Amgen whom I pray goes belly up!

companies like Bayer, Bristol Meyers squibb and so on - are their to make the almighty buck -and they pass the buck and kill the messenger on anything great... history repeats this message -loudly during the WWII death camps,
eugenic cleansing...

Like unto the adult stem cells/ GDNF clinical trial /etc.
they have a hope dangling like a carrot two inches from our grasp and if we indeed get too close to the carrot bait, they remove it completely... and pull a BS... monkey study outta of their back pockets... and poof it' gone...
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I believe their are very few/ well one or two PD non profits, that do not use
bigpharma's dough to make their bread...

the only one I know is PRO -it is located at this website -
She is Jo Rosen -her mom died from PD and her late husband Alan Rosen had PD - she is the most real PD advocate and a women with a great mind,
that is my good friend...

www.ParkinsonsResource.org
http://www.parkinsonsresource.org/newsletter.html
jO ROSEN, SHE has alot of good /brilliant people in her great organization, and she will not take money from BigPharma... She/ dear Jo is ahead of her time!
and I really do love her...
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