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Jim091866 10-31-2006 08:29 PM

great link
 
Daffy, that was a great link. It really explains the behind the scenes of PD, the role of agonists, etc. Leads me to believe more in the importance of antioxidants. Seems to me there is a supplement called NADH but from what I remember it was really expensive. I'd like to ask about a few other things...I ran across an article which studied the neuroprotective effect of CDP choline but can't find it as a supplement-only "choline" which is not the same thing as I understand it. Finally, I stumbled across a site for bio-research that sells human and rat derrived enzymes and antibodies. They listed something like 10ug of GDNF for $295.00. Hmmm..that and a DIY manual and we're on our way, lol. :eek:

Thelma 10-31-2006 10:05 PM

Will you give me the url for this info please

Daffy Duck 11-01-2006 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Thelma (Post 32935)
Will you give me the url for this info please


It's a summary of a complete biochemistry of Parkinson's Disease. So there is far more information available beyond this.

Daffy Duck 11-01-2006 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim0918 (Post 32906)
Daffy, that was a great link. It really explains the behind the scenes of PD, the role of agonists, etc. Leads me to believe more in the importance of antioxidants. Seems to me there is a supplement called NADH but from what I remember it was really expensive. I'd like to ask about a few other things...I ran across an article which studied the neuroprotective effect of CDP choline but can't find it as a supplement-only "choline" which is not the same thing as I understand it. Finally, I stumbled across a site for bio-research that sells human and rat derrived enzymes and antibodies. They listed something like 10ug of GDNF for $295.00. Hmmm..that and a DIY manual and we're on our way, lol. :eek:

C and DP and choline separately are nutrients. However, together as CDP-choline they act as a drug. Somebody has informed me of emphatic effects they experienced from CDP-choline, it seems by releasing dopamine. However, as CDP-choline is effectively a drug its effects will not be long term.

chasmo 11-01-2006 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Daffy Duck (Post 33047)


It's a summary of a complete biochemistry of Parkinson's Disease. So there is far more information available beyond this.

Thanks to Keith Bridgeman for compiling this info!!

You shake loose my memories of high school chemistry!

Charlie

ashleyk 03-27-2018 05:17 PM

Remembering the old Neurotalk
 
This may or may not be posted but I never understood why "Keith" was banned. The posts by him were always interesting and scientific. I miss him and hope he is well and maybe can rejoin this forum

moondaughter 03-28-2018 05:52 AM

iron on the brain....no wonder grounding is so difficult
 
Janice Walton Hadlock described pd pathos as "rebellious or backwards flowing chi" ....considering the magnetic qualities of iron this explains that beautifully...

The roles of neuromelanin, binding of metal ions, and oxidative cytotoxicity in the pathogenesis of Parkinson's disease: A hypothesis | SpringerLink

https://medicienterprises.com/wp-con...rkinsons-1.pdf

Oxidative Stress Analysis 2. (Blood)

>> Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, Senile Dementia: How to Understand It and What to Do About It – 155 (he no longer charges for subscription to his shows-only that you sign up)

https://medicienterprises.com/wp-con...arkinson-2.pdf


MD

trixiedee 03-28-2018 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ashleyk (Post 1260891)
This may or may not be posted but I never understood why "Keith" was banned. The posts by him were always interesting and scientific. I miss him and hope he is well and maybe can rejoin this forum

Funny you should say this as I had a run in with 'Keith' under a pseudonym on a Facebook PD group yesterday. He was threatening and abusive when I challenged him and ended up saying he was going to report me to the benefits office (welfare) for pretending to be too sick to work. I have spent the last few hours in tears and extremely upset. He is a nasty man with a personality disorder.

Trixiedee

soccertese 03-28-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ashleyk (Post 1260891)
This may or may not be posted but I never understood why "Keith" was banned. The posts by him were always interesting and scientific. I miss him and hope he is well and maybe can rejoin this forum

I'VE READ THRU some of his old posts and much of the "facts" he posted about biochemistry and cells in general are correct. but think about it, why would anyone with maybe a college degree - everything he posted would be easily understood by anyone with even biochemistry 101 and a few courses in genetics, post here? i don't think he has pd, but even if he did, imho someone who gets up on their soapbox railing against the scientific/medical establishment in a message board where there are very desperate people looking for something better than current treatments is someone who is either just playing with us and wants attention that he can't get from the people he is railing against or eventually will refer to a new supplement on the market.

people actively involved with pd treatment/research rarely post here, probably because of the liability if someone acts on a post and injures themselves. when a moderator with a healthcare background posts they include warnings/disclaimers, this guy didn't, just total disregard for the possible consequences of his words. whenever i see a poster try to undo pd dogma by presenting just a few articles supporting his/her "facts" i first go back and read their old posts to get an idea how objective they are and try to figure out their motives, why are they posting on a pd board and what other boards do they post on?

sorry, got carried away. it's the pd. :)

ashleyk 03-31-2018 04:54 PM

Triixidee?
 
"Funny you should say this as I had a run in with 'Keith' under a pseudonym on a Facebook PD group yesterday. He was threatening and abusive when I challenged him and ended up saying he was going to report me to the benefits office (welfare) for pretending to be too sick to work. I have spent the last few hours in tears and extremely upset. He is a nasty man with a personality disorder.
Trixiedee"

Trixidee, It's been years now but the posts/replys that I read by Daffy Duck/Kieth, as I remember, did not seem to be abusive. He certainly was challenging in some of his presentations but isn't that a good thing when we are dealing with the unknowns of PD. As someone in China once said, "let a thousand flowers bloom".
To accuse someone of being abusive when they are unable to present there side of the story is unfair, don't you think? Could you provide us with the web site and titles of this exchange.


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