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Old 02-07-2010, 09:10 AM #51
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to end on a positive note my first post ,i had a meeting back in december 09 with one of the professor working on this gene therapy mentionned here
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their research is superserious and official as they're sponsored by the European Union/French government .
He told me the cure (yes ,i am writing "cure"!! ) should be available in 5 years
they have started the phase on human beings since 6 months

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I know everyone who reads this is thinking, what is it and when? And will it be available, as in, publicly available to anyone who needs it and not just those in trials in five years? Also, will it be available everywhere in five years, or just in Europe/France? Any information you can share would be most appreciated, particularly if what you are referencing is prosavin, which has been talked about on this forum. Thanks!
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:30 AM #52
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this is the tri genetic therapy,i am reffering:
[QUOTE]Gene Therapy Success for Parkinson's
Research in monkeys suggests that genetically delivering dopamine avoids some side effects.
By Emily Singer
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/editors/24236/

According to an article on the NatureNews website:
http://www.nature.com/news/2009/0910...2009.1001.html

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This success in monkeys paves the way for future studies in humans, says Palfi, who reported his animal results today in the journal Science Translational Medicine1. "This is the exact situation that we will face in the clinic," he says. Palfi's team has already tested two different doses of the three-gene-containing virus in six human patients, and is now investigating an intermediate dose that matches that used in the monkeys, with corrections for brain size. Once the researchers find the optimal dose, they plan to move the experimental treatment into Phase II trials, Palfi says.
...Palfi's technique is not the only gene therapy currently being pursued for Parkinson's disease. Some researchers are delivering genes that provide growth factors to halt the death of dopamine-producing neurons. Others are introducing genes that inhibit the excessive neural activity associated with Parkinson's disease in the same way as the surgical process known as deep-brain stimulation. And yet others are focusing on single genes -- rather than all three -- with a role in dopamine synthesis.

But Palfi's team is the first to deliver all three of the dopamine genes in a single viral vector in primates. This approach aims to eliminate the need for L-DOPA and its associated side effects.

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what makes this genetic therapy a cure is that the brain produces dopamine at a sufficient level again........

6 humans patients have been treated already..with very good results

the bad side is that for the moments ,laboratory can produce genes in small quantities but not ready yet for"mass production ".......

from "le FIGARO ",the biggest french newspaper,here is the article :
http://www.lefigaro.fr/sante/2009/10...ometteuse-.php

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A gene therapy for Parkinson's disease that has been tested on monkeys is showing promising early results in a small-scale trial on humans. French researchers reported their findings in the new journal Science Translational Medicine last week.

In Parkinson's disease specific nerve cells in the brain degrade causing severe movement problems, including tremors and the inability to initiate movement. Current drugs used to treat the disease temporarily increase the amount of the neurotransmitter dopamine, which is depleted during Parkinson's. This treatment helps control nerve cell activity, and intermittently alleviates Parkinson's symptoms. However, long term these drugs can cause debilitating side effects, called dyskinesias, that include abnormal involuntary movements like as jerkiness, rigidity and tremor.

The gene therapy involved inserting three genes that produce dopamine, into a deactivated virus. The virus was then injected directly into the brains of monkeys with Parkinson's symptoms. The treatment restored the monkeys' levels of dopamine and corrected their movement problems, for 12 months, without any dyskinesias.

This success in monkeys paves the way for future studies in humans, says Stéphane Palfi, who reported the results of the animal study. 'This is the exact situation that we will face in the clinic,' he explained. Palfi's team has already tested two different doses of the three-gene-containing virus in six human patients, in collaboration with colleagues at Oxford BioMedica.

Researchers say the results are encouraging, as measured in control of Parkinson's symptoms and in side effects such as brain inflammation.They are now investigating an intermediate dose that matches that used in the monkeys, with corrections for brain size. Once the researchers find the optimal dose, they plan to move the experimental treatment into Phase II trials, Palfi says. This trial will test the gene therapy treatments safety and effectiveness.

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I know everyone who reads this is thinking, what is it and when? And will it be available, as in, publicly available to anyone who needs it and not just those in trials in five years? Also, will it be available everywhere in five years, or just in Europe/France? Any information you can share would be most appreciated, particularly if what you are referencing is prosavin, which has been talked about on this forum. Thanks!
from what he told me,they are still searching for the most efficient genes doses to inject,6 human patients were treated last year,12 would receive the therapy in 2010.

I am 40, i asked him to be on the next waiting /experiment list...but they work with much older patients for now .
5 years time is when the treatment should be available to everybody .
In the french press,there was much fuss about this discovery,and some articles suggested 3 years .
prof Palfi told me 5 years......
in the french article ,it's written that one of the big monkey,48 months after his genes injection, was still in great dopa shape.......
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Default This is the prosavin study, right?

Is this doctor involved in the prosavin trials?

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from what he told me,they are still searching for the most efficient genes doses to inject,6 human patients were treated last year,12 would receive the therapy in 2010.

I am 40, i asked him to be on the next waiting /experiment list...but they work with much older patients for now .
5 years time is when the treatment should be available to everybody .
In the french press,there was much fuss about this discovery,and some articles suggested 3 years .
prof Palfi told me 5 years......
in the french article ,it's written that one of the big monkey,48 months after his genes injection, was still in great dopa shape.......
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Exclamation I think it is ProSavin

Professor Stéphane Palfi commented : "The preclinical proof-of-concept studies together with clinical data from the first two dose levels in the Phase I/II study suggest that ProSavin may provide sustained and meaningful benefit to patients and could reduce or eliminate the debilitating complications associated with oral dopamine replacement therapy. In the initial indication of moderate to late-stage Parkinson's disease, ProSavin potentially offers significant advantages to the current alternatives of Deep Brain Stimulation or mechanical delivery of continuous dopamine."

Read more: http://www.fiercebiotech.com/press-r...#ixzz0etMcD06V
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[QUOTE=jeanb;619072]Professor Stéphane Palfi commented : "The preclinical proof-of-concept studies together with clinical data from the first two dose levels in the Phase I/II study suggest that ProSavin may provide sustained and meaningful benefit to patients and could reduce or eliminate the debilitating complications associated with oral dopamine replacement therapy. In the initial indication of moderate to late-stage Parkinson's disease, ProSavin potentially offers significant advantages to the current alternatives of Deep Brain Stimulation or mechanical delivery of continuous dopamine."


i think he is ProSavin too.
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Professor Stéphane Palfi commented : "The preclinical proof-of-concept studies together with clinical data from the first two dose levels in the Phase I/II study suggest that ProSavin may provide sustained and meaningful benefit to patients and could reduce or eliminate the debilitating complications associated with oral dopamine replacement therapy. In the initial indication of moderate to late-stage Parkinson's disease, ProSavin potentially offers significant advantages to the current alternatives of Deep Brain Stimulation or mechanical delivery of continuous dopamine."


i think he is ProSavin too.
Hi Villiers

I met Dr Palfi last year in London at a conference at the Royal Holloway. He was very enthusiastic about Prosavin. I asked him at the time that the results may have been down to placebo, but he assured that he felt it was not. I understand they are about to start the next stage of the trials which will involve using something called convection enhanced delivery. This should allow them to use higher more efficaeous doses. Their current low doses have achieved similar results to DBS without the need for wires to be left in the brain.

Did Dr Palfi tell you anything else about Prosavin? Is he still optimistic about its future?

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Hi Villiers

I met Dr Palfi last year in London at a conference at the Royal Holloway. He was very enthusiastic about Prosavin. I asked him at the time that the results may have been down to placebo, but he assured that he felt it was not. I understand they are about to start the next stage of the trials which will involve using something called convection enhanced delivery. This should allow them to use higher more efficaeous doses. Their current low doses have achieved similar results to DBS without the need for wires to be left in the brain.

Did Dr Palfi tell you anything else about Prosavin? Is he still optimistic about its future?



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Hello Martin

Dr Palfi seemed very optimistic .
He told me that in 5 years,this treatment would be largely available
(i met him in dec 09)
He was kindda secretive about it too
i begged him to be part in the upcoming trials
but it seems i am not enough "old" to be involved (i am 40)

As a person,he was very cold and arrogant

my meeting with him took place at HOPITAL HENRI MONDOR IN CRETEIL (a suburb of Paris )
I could get an appointment by phone
cost 23 euros
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Default Oxfordbiomedica are Prosavin ...

and there 2009 report says:

"Prosavin currently has shown a stable approximate 30% improvement in the patient's condition, regardless of dose level. At 30% improvement in larger trials it will likely challenge deep brain stimulation for the surgery market in Parkinson's disease".

So not a cure, still early days, (Spheramine failed much later than the stage at which Prosavin is currently), and Oxfordbiomedica see Prosavin as coming to market 2012/2013, if it passes trials and they get a partner as they cannot afford this to go alone, etc, yadda yadda ...

Remember, they all work on monkeys and rats and until the tests are blinded, (at this rate I might have that on my gravestone).

Sorry, just trying to spread a little realism here.

Neil (aka misery of Evesham).
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