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Old 12-06-2006, 05:19 PM #1
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Default Embryonic Cloning Advances in Australia

Australia has followed Israel, Taiwan, Sth Korea, the U.K. and others in an overwhelming support by its parliament in this win win for science. The problem is secula Australia don't have anywhere near the scientific knowse the U.S. has at its disposal.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...081020220.html

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Default Agree Australia doesn't have the expertise ...

at present but it has great potential. Great climate, good standard of living and much cheaper cost of living than parts of Europe.

With the UK's approach of 2 men and a dog and hope for divine intervention, (hardly worthy of the world's 4th largest economy), and the fiasco in Southern Korea, Australia may act as a new magnet for research.

Depends how serious they are.

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Default slipping in to say....

I would much rather just read -you two because you are so entertaining in your language and mannerisms. I won't put you any more on the spot just keep at it.

But Howard, any people to stir up over there? The UK has Tom Isaacs and Europe Mary [forgot her last name....is it Richards?] I don't think that's right.

This is a global issue......let me know if you hear of any ideas or news if you don't mind.

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Default Hey Hey Paula

Anybody remember that song? out of the 1950s or 60s. Franky Avalon or somebody similar may have sung it. Catchy tune. But I digress....

Tom Isaacs or Mary Richards. Are they musicians, scientists,? Give us a clue.

Speaking of ideas this may be of interest to worthy investors.....


http://www.isecureonline.com/Reports...70503&l=811340

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Default Daffy / Santa perhaps you can answer this ...

just so people don't think I am unjustifiably moaning re. the UK's stem cell efforts, I have attached two links:

i) This one is entitled "Britain's position as the world leader in stem cell technology is in serious jeopardy because of a lack of funding, one of the country's leading scientists said yesterday".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/ma...28/nstem25.xml

ii) This one is entitled "Leading genetic scientist leaves UK for Spain".

http://education.guardian.co.uk/high...570853,00.html

While the UK has proven to be one of the more creative countries in the world my question is how is it possible to make meaningful advances set against this "cottage industry" background. Perhaps the UK is unique where medical research flourishes in an environment of adversity and underfunding.

Daffy, I thought you may have some insight here as you seem to be close to the UK medical business. In summary I am asking anyone:

"Is the UK's approach to stem cell research typical of its historical approach to research in other fields or is it just government spin".

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Howard I am sorry, they are advocates. Tom Isaacs tells a story about a fundraising walk he was in. It was a long one, across England or something like that. During it, the GDNF trial took place and a friend called him and said, "you can stop walking, they've found a cure."

He also recently did a radio show on the BBC about GDNF.

Mary ......I forget her name....is the Parkinson's representative in the World Health Organization.

Just wondered if there were any active groups in New Zealand representing patients, who are the only ones that can push research with that sense of urgency.

I certainly do remember that song. It was so long ago it is starting to really date us...lol
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