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Old 08-17-2009, 08:58 AM #41
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I have been following this thread with interest. I am an ob-gyn in practice for 27 years and trust me, our system is seriously broken, and anyone who doesn't see this is not looking. My patients are losing insurance coverage along with jobs, can't afford Cobra (which is temporary, expensive extension of your health insurance from your recent employer) or finding that any policy they are able to afford covers very little. Heaven forbid there should be a pre-existing condition! The insurance companies are profit-driven which translates into denial of legitimate claims or endless appeals and delays until you are paid. Usually 1/3 to 1/2 of your billed services. The percentage drops every year. In 2008 I made the least profit I have ever taken out of my practice. This is with very little change in my billing amounts. Even with PD I am working hard and would love to cut back but can't afford to. And if anyone thinks there are "free market" forces somehow applicable here that is some kind of nostalgic fable. I sign a contract with your insurer that says that I will accept their reimbursements and I cannot bill my patient for services that are denied by their insurer. So I am out the cost of the bone density study that I ordered for my post-menopausal breast cancer patient who can't take estrogen and whose mother died of complications of osteoporosis. Her insurer claims that the bone density study is "investigational"!!! That's it, case closed, I eat the unpaid bill. After a lengthy appeal no doubt.

My best friend from medical school works in the VA system. She has been there a while so makes a generous salary, 5 weeks paid vacation, 1 week paid CME, she will have a pension, great benefits, Federal holidays, etc etc. So what exactly is it about the government-run system I am supposed to be afraid of? She likes her practice and takes care of patients who need her.

I have to hire an extra person to spend the day begging the insurance co's to pay for legitimate services. It is hard to budget when you don't know when or if you will be reimbursed. And yet the insurance companies make a profit--why?? What service does a bureaucrat from BCBS provide for my patient, and why does that entitle them to large executive pays and profits?
I don't doubt that a public plan will not be without its drawbacks but the current system with no checks on insurance co. power is not superior. Lucky you if you are happy with your current plan but I see a bigger picture of many hard-working people who aren't able to obtain or afford coverage and they aren't all illegals or deadbeats.

I'm sorry to be so lengthy but I don't post too often and it's mainly when I feel strongly about something. One last thing: another of my med school (Duke) classmates practices in Canada, and the system works pretty well in her viewpoint. She is a psychiatrist who has practiced in both countries. I see the propaganda about how terrible the Canadian system is and I think it is all being funded by ins cos and big pharma and they have the clout to get whatever they want I'm afraid. Sigh. The status quo.
Thank you for sharing your viewpoint, it is nice to hear from someone actually in the ranks. Somehow, though, you are an anomaly to me: every doc I know or have experience with is still making a VERY good living, living in a million dollar + house, their kids have every thing and get to do every activity...country club, nice vacations, a lot like your friend at the VA. It's hard to feel sorry for a medical profession where virtually every doctor you have ever met makes so much money and lives so extravagantly, even now.

I did read a recent (yesterday, in fact) article about the Canadian system being unsustainable. The statements come from the lady who I understand will be heading it up, so I give it credibility. Here's the link: (BTW, however you take her comments, it gives us all food for thought, in terms of how we reform our current system. We have several countries with public healthcare: we should study those and learn all we can before proceeding forward, and this takes TIME, something our administration seems unwilling to do.):

http://www.google.com/hostednews/can...335rGu_Z3KXoQw
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interesting summary of costs, healthcare setup and results between the 4 countries.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8201711.stm

France and Singapore look best imho.

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