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Old 08-23-2009, 05:09 PM #11
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Thanks for taking the 'devils advocate" position and I guess I might be the devil here! I am far beyond surprised at the negative campaign on vaccines these days. There is so much of misinformation (actually scientifically incorrect) on vaccines out there, that the word vaccine rather than infection has become a dreaded word. I will be the first one to admit, that the vaccines that are available now are not the best of best, but how many of the drugs out there are 100% safe and effective? For that matter the air we breathe, water we drink and the food we eat are no longer the best things for us! World-wide statistics clearly show how effective vaccines are in saving lives. Their benefits over weigh their ill effects. This is the global perspective.

I do understand the anger of a mother when she sees a correlation between vaccination and autism or any other illness. As a mother, I would love to have vaccines or any other drugs/treatments given to my child to be better than 100% safe and effective. There are ways to make vaccines better and less "toxic" these days and that should be the campaign, make safer vaccines, not stop vaccinations.

Anyway, I can go on and on about the necessity and benefits of vaccines!! I did that once before here! We had a long discussion on vaccines a few months ago here and dont want to do that again!!

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Girlja, I'll be another devil's advocate here on the vaccine thing, going the other way. I know so many parents who had normal kids until a round of vaccines (usually multiple virii) and then their child turned into some stranger. I have read many, many accounts of girls getting vaccinated with the new gardisil vaccine and they have died or were rendered completely or partially paralized. These 16-year old girls were honor students and on varsity sports teams, no history of any medical problem, you cannot tell me the shot did not cause their death/paralysis.

Even now, when they give this this shot to the girls they MAKE THEM LAY DOWN when they get it because so many girls are fainting right after the shot being given. Who believes this does not signal some HUGE problem? They have NO clue what these shots are really doing and they want us all to sign up for the ultimate human experiment, all while they make huge sums selling these vaccines.

Until they can make these vaccines without all the neurotoxins and animal flesh (monkey kidneys, for one) and other $#@! they put in them, AND make them as effective as they represent (most vaccines' efficacy begins to wane after the first year and shots I got as a kid are no protection for me now, and I'm not that old!), more and more people are going to practice healthy eating and excellent hygiene and refuse the shots. I have never heard of any pharma talking about "greening" up their vaccines, all they talk about is how many more vaccines people need to take and then of course they are pushing new vaccines for stuff every time I turn around. This is too bad because all this does is widen the rift...
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Old 08-25-2009, 04:18 AM #12
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hi lurking for cure

we disagree again!
I am looking at the global picture while your heart goes out for the child who suffers, both aspects are important. I guess we are representing that'. I should agree to disagree and stop here, but I feel compelled to give a more accurate picture of vaccines than what you might have}
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I have never heard of any pharma talking about "greening" up their vaccines, all they talk about is how many more vaccines people need to take and the
Just a suggestion, if you are interested, there are several papers on naked DNA Vaccines,( nothing obscene!)which are just DNA that are in R&D phase that might appeal to you.
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animal flesh (monkey kidneys, for one) and other $#@! they put in them
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\I am not aware of vaccines with animal flesh, monkry kidneys, However, some vaccines are made using monkey kidney cells that have been in use for years and are tested for their properties

You need booster shots to maintain your immunity. The reason is immy]ne system cannot remember every pathogen it sees and keeps the memory of big threats, sort of similar to memories of our brain, big events you remember but not all small events

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excellent hygiene and refuse the shots.
Sorry to say this. Excellent hygiene will not prevent infections, rather promotes allergies and asthma!

g and every time I turn around. This is too bad because all this does is widen the rift...[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Need more direct communication. This is my attempt to give a more accurate picture of vaccines and bridge that gap!
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Arrow Swine Flu Vaccine May Kill You!

By Tom White, on August 16th, 2009, at 7:43 am


Are you going to take the chance with yourself or your child?
News from the UK concerning the vaccine against the H1N1 virus also known as the Swine Flu is not good. The UK Health Protection Agency sent a confidential letter to neurologists warning of a potential of the vaccine to cause Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), a neurological illness often triggered by autoimmune induced nervous system damage following vaccinations.

In the US during the 1976 swine flu scare, the vaccine killed more people then the flu, prompting the injections to be halted. GBS attacks the lining of nerves known as myelin, leading often to paralysis, breathing impairment, and a number of deaths.

The US Government paid the families of those killed by the 1976 vaccines millions of dollars. The US government has now moved to hold vaccine manufacturers harmless for vaccine related deaths, so payment for lost loved ones is not likely this time around

http://www.varight.com/?p=1331
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Arrow Dr. Russell Blaylock on 1976 Swine Flu and Current Outbreak

Dr. Russell Blaylock on 1976 Swine Flu and Current Outbreak
•Dr. Russell Blaylock, is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. An expert on nutrition and vaccines, he is also editor of the widely distributed Blaylock Wellness Report. He comments :

I was in the military during the first swine flu scare in 1976. At the time it became policy that all soldiers would be vaccinated for swine flu. As a medical officer I refused and almost faced a court martial, but the military didn’t want the bad publicity. Despite the assurance by all the experts in virology, including Dr. Sabin, the epidemic never materialized.

What did materialize were 500 cases of Gullian-Barre paralysis, including 25 deaths—not due to the swine flu itself, but as a direct result of the vaccine. At the time President Gerald Ford, on advice from the CDC, called for vaccination of the entire population of the United States.
Today, some 33 years later, we are hearing the same cries of alarm from a similar lineup of virology experts. The pharmaceutical companies are busy designing a vaccine for the swine flu in hope that this administration will make the vaccine mandatory before another vaccine-related disaster can ruin their party.

And as before, a number of equally qualified experts are calling for calm, based on a number of carefully conducted studies. To no one’s surprise, they too are being ignored by the media and government planners.

According to science reports, this current strain of flu is H1N1. It can be forcibly inoculated into pigs, but it has been shown not to spread among the pig population. This means that the danger of a swine-based epidemic is small.

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Old 08-25-2009, 05:32 AM #15
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Lightbulb videos / swine flu/ epidemic or genocide?

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