Hi. If you think you're frustated NOW, try watching Jesse Ventura's new tv show Conspiracy Theory. I watched it the other night and now I'm compeltely befuddled. According to this show, a group called The Bilderberg's meet once a year and they are trying to de-populate the world. We have too many people. Over 7 billion and they feel it should be 500 million. They had people on this show (doctors and professionals), saying that they will de-populate the world using vaccines, and if it doesn't kill us it will render us sterile. Then the guy went on to talk about how our food supply is poisoned by all the food additives, and aspertame, and the pharmaceutical companies are killing us with drugs.

Then they got to talking about our water supply. It seems that there are chemicals that are added to water (and I'm not talking about chlorine ), that when added to our tap water, kills off the harmful bacteria, etc.

He mentioned one chemcial that went completely over my head and the guy said "This should NEVER be added to drinking water, it's completely toxic, yet the FDA does nothing". "neither does the EPA".

I just stood there watching my tv and said "what on earth are we going to do if any of this is true". I mean, look at the rate of autism. People attribute it to the vaccines, and yes, the determination was made that IT WAS NOT THE VACCINES, but the numbers don't lie. 30 years ago it was 1 in 3000 or something like that, and now it's 1 in 150. Number's don't lie.

This had to be the most frightening program I have ever watched and when I told Alan he said "I know all about The Bilderberg Group, and Alex Jones and David Ick. " Alan believes all of this stuff and feels that BIG BROTHER is trying to get us off the planet so the super elite can have the good life.

Good Lord.

All I wanted to know was shall I boil my water before I drink it? Will that kill any chemicals that might have been added to my tap water. I grow most of my food and I'm not buying any processed anything, but good lord if the water turns out to have chemicals that later on can hurt our immune system, (Oh yeah, that's what the guy said "They are trying to harm our immune system with all the food additives and beverage additives".

Food Additives and Beverage Additives can affect the immune system, causing Auto Immune things going on. How on earth can we rule out that these cause varous disorders, diseases, and NEUROPATHY?

Good Grief.

Mel

Mel

You can't believe everything you see and read....especially Jesse.

I would take it with a grain of salt. It is entertainment. I doubt that a greedy group could cooperate with each other to accomplish a task such as depopulation. Yes, we are overpopulating the planet. People see empty land and think there is room to build. There isn't. It is about more than empty land, it is about all kinds of resources.

Anyway........THIS IS IMPORTANT.....

Don't boil your water. Boiling only kills organisms. If you are dealing with a chemical, you can increase its concentration and make it more toxic. You boil to kill germs, but not to get rid of contaminants.

You can get a reverse osmosis system, such as we use. We have a big one, but you can get counter top models. This is not like the Brita filter advertised on TV. RO systems reconstitute water. Britas are fine for removing chlorine and I think lead too, but not for the 400 other chemicals found in water.

figures dont lie but liars figure

i have first hand encounters with conspiracy theory types and can tell you that they are off the wall. I have had them tell me that i dont know what im talking about for something that i was at. What would i know i was just there.

having said that, that is not to say that there are not groups of elites who meet to influence the direction of economics and politics. I am certain that they do. How effective they are and for how long is open to debate.

I was going to suggest reverse osmosis as well. Here is a site that explains it well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_osmosis

You can't get away from everything that is out there. You just try to do the best that you can. I have a friend who has been eating healthy along with her husband and hopefully doing everything right. Well, about three weeks ago, she found a lump and it is an aggressive form of breast cancer. She had a biopsy and lots of staples and stitches and a port, etc. So now she is dealing with chemo and will have radiation and all that it entails. She was healthy and there was not any breast cancer of any kind in her family at all.

Now here she is with great fatigue from it all along with hair loss (she shaved her head before that happened), nausea (has drugs for that), trouble with her eyes which is supposed to leave after the treatment is done, and any number of things. She tells me that she now can understand a little of how fatigued I must be, and I am. She takes around four naps a day. And this was a healthy person. After all the treatment, she will be on a certain pill for a long time and hopefully this stuff will not come back again.

I have read about all of this before but now I hear abut it and see it first hand. It is something that I do not think that I could go thru. I hope that I never, ever have to make that decision.

One never knows what's around the corner and maybe that is good. I believe that most everyone does not get out of this world without something wrong. A person could make themself sick worrying about everything.

One of my daughters is a water scientist. There is little about drinking water, or any water, that she has not told me. Most of it isn't good. About the show, without having seen it, I guess that what they probably added to water is either chlorine or flouride.

She eats only organic food and is vegetarian, which I can't do. Tried it and got myself sick.

I also can not afford total organic food, and my ability to make things from scratch is going down the tubes, with being sick. Hubby has no clue about what to cook either.

Anyway, don't buy bottled water as it isn't any better. Don't boil it. RO is the only option at this point.

My tap water is so full of nitrates that it grows plants fabulously.

And keep on sprouting.

I am with Echoes in that some conspiracy theorists are kinda 'different'....not that there isn't some truth in what they say.....you just gotta find it.

Something i have noticed over the years here is that many of the posters were really pretty healthy and in good shape before they were afflicted with PN. Im not saying that we are representative of the average person who has PN but it is something that has struck me over and over in reading peoples histories. I myself hadnt been to a doctor in over 8 years, ran 8 miles a day and didnt smoke or drink. You never really know whats around the corner.

Good observation. I noticed in some of the autoimmune disease forums, that endurance athletes, especially aging ones, seemed over represented. Hmm. There are lots of average people and those that were sick their entire lives, but a significant proportion seem to have been steady exercisers.

I did sprint triathlons until age 50, and before I got into that, cycling, not minor mileage, either, usually 150 miles per week. I noticed after age 40 that something was wrong, but kept it up. Around age 47, something was undeniably wrong and others could tell. Now it is tough to move.

It may be the chronic inflammation that daily high intensity exercise causes.

Here is a site on The Bilderberg Group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

Jesse Ventura can be something else.

My PN is inherited. And yes, you never know what's around the corner.

Hi everyone.


First, THANK YOU for all the great links and info. I am going to check into Reverse Osmosis, and that should be very interesting because I have NO IDEA what this even is. But I'm game. After all, I have 22 mason jars, on a sprout rack in my kitchen growing all kinds of beauties. And i have to buy more seeds next week. I do this every 3 months. I'm buying more broccoli seeds (organic) because they are having a big sale, so I'll store them in my freezer, and every time I sprout them, I tell myself "Ah, lots of anti-oxidants".

so here's to EDUCATING OURSELVES, NEW EXPERIENCES, NOT GIVING UP WHEN WE THINK WE JUST MIGHT DO SO, and most of all

NOT BELIEVING EVERYTHING WE SEE AND HEAR AND READ ABOUT.

Living in fear is not living at all.

Take care all of you.

Melody