He won't go near any almonds but I threatened him with no more deep tissue massages and he said "well, if you put it like that!!!!"

Also, and this is quite a coincidence, every night I speak to a friend in another state. I talked about magnesium.

She says to me "Oh, I couldn't exist without it, I had Restless Leg Syndrome for 8 years, couldn't sleep, it would wake me out of my bed and my legs would be jumping all over the place".

I said "oh my god, I was just speaking to the neuropathy boards about that and they suggested magnesium.

She said "It's the kind of delivery that's important, don't buy anything but Magnesium Citrate. I tried the other kind and it did nothing, but three weeks after I began taking Magnesium Citrate, I can sleep and that's a long time ago, It's also good for the heart!!!

So guess who in this house is going to be taking Magnesium Citrate from today on??????????????????

Maybe I'll give it a whirl too. I mean, if I can run one block, maybe I can run a marathon???? yeah right!!!

love,
Melody

P.S. he came home from the gym. No black and blues and the big purple one on his knees are fading.
Seems he likes to go on this machine where you put your knees in it and bring them together and clang them together.

So be careful with it. If Alan tends to constipation, then that is fine.

But there are other magnesium products that will not loosen stools.
SlowMag (the less expensive generics--MagDelay and Mag64) work best
for those with GI reactions.

Do NOT purchase magnesium oxide...this has low bioavailability and is
basically not absorbed at all. One would get about 8mg from a 400mg tablet!

If loose stools occur that is a sign that the magnesium you are using is not being absorbed, or you are taking too much.

Dosing is explained at the Vit Forum here, so be careful and take it sensibly.
Alan should start at 200mg/day.. assuming he is getting some from his dairy
intake. If you use SlowMag or its cousins... one twice a day is the typical dose, for that form.

Whatever would I do without your advice?

I was just about to go to my local GNC for the magnesium when I read your post. I printed it out and am taking it with me

So do you think Alan has restless leg syndrome (from everything I wrote), or do you think it's just the PN??

thanks for the help,

Melody

P.S. Will the magnesium help with PN if a person doesn't have restless leg???

will help with his heart and blood pressure!

It is necessary for incorporation of calcium into bone.

It is necessary for proper utilization of fatty acids.

It helps muscle function...
It has many other uses...helps you fall asleep, helps with hearing,
and improves bruxism (tooth grinding at night).

You can buy 60 tablets at WalMart (in the pharmacy behind the counter)
--a month's supply-- for about 6.00 This is MagDelay generic for SlowMag.

Magnesium improves pain tolerance...by blocking the NMDA receptor that causes pain...so yes,
it can help with PN.

You will likely pay more at GNC..

Hi. they do not carry Magnesium Citrate at present.

The only thing they carried is Magnesium (Oxide).

I showed them the printed out post from the boards and they were very impressed.

I went to three other stores. Only magnesium oxide things.

I finally went to another drug store and they had Magnesium Citrate tablets (Solgar Brand). 120 tablets 400mgs and was $14.95.

Said to take two pills a day.

I did not buy it because I didn't have the money me.

I did go on the internet and typed in Magdelay and Slowmag and only information on magdelay came up.

So do you think the Magnesium Citrate is the one I should get?
My friend Laura swears by it. Says she never had another bout of restless leg syndrome after she had been taking this stuff for only 3 weeks.
She wouldn't go a day without it.

I am also going to check places like Puritan Pride, etc.

Thanks Mrs. D

melody

P.S. Mrs. Doubtfire, I just went to Puritan's Pride. They sell Magnesium Citrate 833 mgs. 100 tablets $7.95 buy one get one free. This is the only kind that they sell. Is this a good deal and is this 833 mg tablet good for us? I am completely new to this magnesium thing!! Thanks.

How about sneaking some pulverized ground up stuff in his protein shakes? If freshly done & added, well, would he really know the diff? Just watch carefully how/when the almonds were prepared/kept/stored/distributed...I'm betting that in NYC, it's far easier than in the outer urbs of cities w/populations of less than 1mil... You get my drift. Hey, consider yourself lucky.

As to being awakened well before the crack of dawn? I'm sensing it was more of a peculiar surprise than a AAACK what's up. Hey! Don't complain, unless there was a bad undercurrent.

Think on it this way: you got fuzzies you didn't expect, Alan did too, after all, took his mind off the PN! Now if it were lack of sleep for OTHER reasons...well, I always blame my meds combo!

Don't know about anyone else, but the 'Cal-Mag' is an essential in my 'diet'!

Fuzzies and good thoughts - j

Hi Dahlek:
What's your first name by the way, (if you don't mind sharing)???

Oh, I get it, buy some slivered almonds and put them in my food processor and grind them up, and add them to his shake.

yeah, I most certainly can do that. What a cool idea???

And about the waking me up at 4:45 a.m.

He didn't wake me up because he got frisky. I woke up because he was moaning about his neuropathy driving him nuts. I massaged him (and well, what do you want?? I give a good massage). Believe me, when I give somebody a massage starting with their shoulders, and going down their back, they stay massaged. My husband says I'm better than any massage place he goes to.

Now if only I could teach him to give me one.

I can only hope!!!!

by the way, have you stopped laughing yet.
wel, if not, I have a good one for ya!!

My niece has a little boy 2 years old who is in a body cast because he broke his femur. They brought a hospital bed in for him but do you think he stays in it. No he got himself out, crawled into the kitchen with a big smile saying I'm hungry. Now they can't leave him alone for one minute for the next 5 weeks.

OY VEY!!!!!!

Oh, they have this toy that they play with, some kind of chef's oven grill where they make believe they make hamburgers and pancakes.

the other day, my niece was changing his diaper and she notices he's playing with his wee-wee!!!! She says very calmly, "Alex, what are you doing? His reponse: "I'M FLIPPING HAMBURGERS, MOMMY".

Get off the floor yet?

mel

does not deliver 800mg of magnesium... it is a complex thing to explain now,
but has to do with ELEMENTAL vs total milligrams.

When magnesium is complexed in chelate, the citrate portion is added in
weight to the total milligrams.

For example...magnesium malate... 1000mg is 150mg of elemental magnesium and the rest is malic acid.

If you choose to use Puritan's ...I would get the Malate form.
It is also sold as malic acid. One of those is a known quantity for me,
and the malic acid portion of the chelate is good for muscles.
Often it is in two places on their website... under magnesium and under malic acid. 180 tablets /$18.99...for 2 ... 152mg of magnesium/tablet
http://www.puritan.com/pages/file.as...CPID=1280&np=1

The citrate-- at Puritan's is:

100 tabs /$7.95/2
http://www.puritan.com/pages/file.as...CPID=1157&np=1
100mg of magnesium /tablet.

For some reason the malate only shows up under malic acid now.

We use Puritan's alot here. I buy my basic stuff there. Often they have a sale-- buy one get TWO free. That is about twice a year.

Today it is buy one get one free.

If Alan does not have loose bowel problems, and tends to constipation,
then the citrate is fine...you should probably use two per day.
If you choose the malic acid form...one a day is enough for most people.

I am not an expert on PN, but I know about frisky things in general, I also beleive pleasurable diversion can conquer & can take over painful sensations very easily. So in answer to your question, Alan's PN may was probably hurting like heck until you triggered the pleasure centers of his brain. Behold the friskyness.

You guys are so cool!!!!

And Mrs. Doubtfire, I doubt any of us could exist without you!!!

You are my hero of the day!!!

Thank you so much.

Oh, I just came from around the corner and there's this young girl who just found out 5 months ago she's diabetic, type one. At 25 years old.

Her sugar goes down to 42 and they put her in the hospital all the time. She's on injections, etc.

Now she just found out he's diabetic and the other day she woke up with such pain in her fingers, they had to take her to the hospital again.

All they did was to give her percocet. She said she took 10 and it did nothing.
I was sitting on the porch and she was telling me about the pins and needles in her hands and I of course said "sounds like Neuropathy" and she said "yeah, that's what they think but they want me to go for some test. I explained all about the nerve conduction and emg and said "these tests will tell you if you have nerve damage". She then said to me "but I'm so young, I just got diagnosed I can't have neuropathy and one of the doctors said I'm too young to have neuropathy".

I said "get yourself a good endocrinologist and he'll order the tests for you. You need to be in the care of a good diabetic professional. She just looked at me and said "oh my god, will I lose my fingers". I said "oh my dear, of course not, just get tested and you can get treatment, they have all kinds of stuff now for neuropathy (if indeed this is what you have)."

She is scared to death. When she said the doctor told her she is too young to have neuropathy, is this possible? I mean, her symptoms are dead on. She was shaking her fingers, because the pins and needles are driving her crazy and she said that in the middle of the night, the stabbing pain in one of her fingers woke her up.

I know she'll start asking me stuff tomorrow night when I go sit outside again. I think I told her the right thing. It's up to her now.

thanks again,
Melody