[MelodyL]

http://www.nextag.com/581471879p/zz2zB4z23/prices-html

I was just wondering. If Magnesium Oxide (in the pills) is worthless, and one can't find a better, except online, then might it be okay to use a bit of this cream?

From what they write, it's GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

But you can't find it anywhere.

How dumb is that?

Anyone ever hear of this, and is this product (or any magnesium cream product), any good?

Thanks much

[mrsD]

thread.

The autistic community has used magnesium cream for quite a while now:

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/...m_Spec225.html

you can make your own. Mix some epsom salts(about a tablespoonful) into water on a plate, use as little water as possible, then mix it into a cream of your choice. (I used Aquaphor--because it is designed to
accept water without liquifying). You can also try Eucerin.

I put it on my knee but found it was of short duration used topically, so I stopped making and using it that way.

The autism community uses it on small children, and it is safer that way to avoid accidental overdoses in children.

Cream form is more expensive than oral.

[MelodyL]

Mrs. D.

If I could see you I WOULD HUG YOU!!!

So if I do this then this will get the magnesium I need into my body (and it's not the oxide which does nothing, right??).

So by doing this everyday, putting a small portion and rubbing it into my legs, I might just be able to stave off those toe cramps that I get every now and then??

And I'm drinking more water now also. I keep forgetting to drink my water every day.

That contributes to muscle spasms too, right?

But my body is slowly getting back to normal. I had a bad stress month (of June), and my whole body went haywire).

This morning, I'm slowly getting back to normal.

Oh, I found this link (I just went to your great magnesium thread over on the other forum).

This was posted:

http://www.puritan.com/pages/file.as...CPID=1280&np=1

So do you advise making your own cream or taking a magnesium pill?

Thanks ever so much.

Melody

[mrsD]

Magnesium oxide does not dissolve like the sulfate does.

It remains a powder. And as such it may not cross the skin
as well. (like it does not dissolve in the GI tract or be absorbed that way.)

The creams typically use sulfate type, which is water soluable and is the same as epsom salts.

If you want a global effect on the body for magnesium, I think oral is best. That is how we are
designed ...to eat foods with magnesium in them.

If you want a local effect on say the feet only or the knee etc, then a cream will work.

Children have very different volumes of distribution compared to adults, so putting the cream on THEM gives more
systemic effects. (volume of distribution involves the ratio of the skin area to weight).
Volume of distribution is important in dosing small children, who need small doses for this reason.

[Chemar]

Mel, many with tics/tourette use magnesium sulfate creme too.
it really seems to calm tics.
I make my own but I know a lot of people use the Kirkman's (it just has other stuff in so I go the purist route like mrsD's recipe )

the creme also a good quick way when one doesnt have time to do a full tub epsom salts soak or footbath.

The magnesium and sulfur really do work wonders for my arthritis in feet and are an almost instant relaxant and soother for my son's tics and the musculo-skeletal aches that come from them, and I believe there are also detox benefits from the tubs and footbaths

[mrsD]

Chemar's is this:

I found topical application of magnesium to work quickly, and just as quickly it wears off with a slight rebound effect for me.

I find oral helps more for me...especially in the legs.
I don't know why either. I think there is individual variance like there is with everything medical.

The magnesium malate at Puritan's is good. I have bought that version. The malic acid is useful for muscles etc. Many fibromyalgia treatments include malic acid.

That high dose magnesium malate does loosen me up, which I don't care for. It does not have that effect for my son, who uses the Puritan version too. It might be that the hard large tablet does not dissolve well for me.
For example the Ionic Fizz works much better for me.
As well as the delayed version, SlowMag. (I use the generic form to save $$ of this). I am very sensitive to the laxative effects of magnesium so I have to go slowly etc. Others don't have that issue.

[MelodyL]

I just came back from the store. I bought a tube of Aquaphor. Tonight, before I go to bed. I'll mix up a small batch with the epsom salts and water. Then I'll rub it on my toes.

Hey, Necessity is the mother of invention, right?

I'm also going to find which foods are HIGH in Magnesium. If it's not in the red meat area, then IT'S FINE WITH ME!!!

Can't thank you enough.

Oh, I just drank a big glass of water. I realized I HAVE NOT BEEN DOING THIS on a regular basis.

So I have the B-12 thing going on for the neuropathy, I'll have the epsom salts thing going on for the cramps.

And I just ate 4 prunes for lunch. I don't get hungry during the day. but I have to eat SOMETHING. So I ate 4 nice prunes. I don't get the low sugar like many diabetics do. Never have. I do check though. I'll have my dinner at 5.

I do have a question about fish. I eat fish every single day. If I don't have it for lunch, I have it for dinner. I'm lucky, I like fish. It's usually Turbot fillet, or fillet of sole. Sometimes I'll eat shrimp or scallops (cholesterol is fine).

Am I having too much mercury? What are signs of too much mercury?

Some one said "oh my god, you eat fish every day??". Now we're talking one piece of fish. Not a whole plate of fish.

I mean, I said to myself "if it's good enough for the Japanese and I don't hear about them coming down with Mercury Poisoning, right??"

Is fish every day a bad thing or a sensible thing. I do have chicken or a small dish of low carb pasta with tomato sauce on the other meal that does not include fish.

I don't have a lot of choices in my meal plan. I used to self medicate with food so I had to completely re-wire my brain and not go off in THAT direction. So what happened to me, is that I happen to like fish. I broil it with a little lemon and garlic and cajun seasoning. With veggies on the side.

But I'm kind of afraid of the mercury especially after what that person said to me.

Alan won't go near any kind of pork or ribs or meat. Or cold cuts, or anything curly. lol

Oh, I do Broiled or grilled chicken wraps for Alan (with tomato sauce on it).

His PSA went down from 3.0 to 2.72 (all that tomato sauce on his chicken)

Thanks much for all the GREAT information.

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Just got this off of the internet.

FOODS HIGH IN MAGNESIUM
Serving Size Magnesium (mg)
Beans, black 1 cup 120
Broccoli, raw 1 cup 22
Halibut 1/2 fillet 170
Nuts, peanuts 1 oz 64
Okra, frozen 1 cup 94
Oysters 3 oz 49
Plantain, raw 1 medium 66
Rockfish 1 fillet 51
Scallop 6 large 55
Seeds, pumpkin and squash 1 oz (142 seeds) 151
Soy milk 1 cup 47
Spinach, cooked 1 cup 157
Tofu 1/4 block 37
Whole grain cereal, ready-to-eat 3/4 cup 24
Whole grain cereal, cooked 1 cup 56
Whole wheat bread 1 slice 24

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WAY TO GO HALIBUT!!! lol

[mrsD]

3 ounces of unsalted almonds have 270mg of magnesium.

[MelodyL]

Yeah, I know ALL about almonds. Every single time I eat Almonds or any other kind of nut I don't go to the bathroom the next day. EVERY SINGLE TIME. I've done the comparisons. So I don't eat almonds. Or nuts.

Oh, guess what I just made (for the first time)? And I have no idea if this will have any magnesium BUT IT WILL HAVE FIBER in it.

I have ALL BRAN in the house. I had skim milk. I had the splenda/brown sugar mix. I had baking powder. I did not use salt (as the recipe suggested. I had the egg whites (or egg substitute).

so I made home-made bran muffins. I put some fresh blueberries on the top.

Just popped it in for 20 minutes. (oh yeah, a quarter cup of vegetable oil).

I told Alan.

This will either kill you or you'll love them!!

20 minutes to go!!!! lol

[MelodyL]

Mrs. D.

Just checked with Puritan's Pride.

They are having a buy one get two free.

Is this a good deal?? I think it is.

http://www.puritan.com/pages/file.as...CPID=1280&np=1