[gardening1]

Hi,
I am new to this site. I have a question. I started having crawling sensations in my arms in 2002. It got better. I had a NCV done then and it was normal. Doc at UAB said it was PN that didn't show up.

My symptoms started again in September 2010. Well the small fiber skin test is fairly new, right? I am being tested for that and will get the results in 2 weeks. The doc seems to think that if nothing shows up on that test, then I don't have neuropathy and nothing is really wrong with me. I've already had a recent NCV and it was normal. My current symptoms are crawling sensations all over, extreme sensitivity to touch, and occasional shooting pains.

Any thoughts?

[invisable]

[QUOTE=gardening1;721748]Hi,
I am new to this site. I have a question. I started having crawling sensations in my arms in 2002. It got better. I had a NCV done then and it was normal. Doc at UAB said it was PN that didn't show up.

My symptoms started again in September 2010. Well the small fiber skin test is fairly new, right? I am being tested for that and will get the results in 2 weeks. The doc seems to think that if nothing shows up on that test, then I don't have neuropathy and nothing is really wrong with me. I've already had a recent NCV and it was normal. My current symptoms are crawling sensations all over, extreme sensitivity to touch, and occasional shooting pains.



Mine also come and go. I do not have sensitivity to touch, but I know that is a PN symptom. My symptoms started in May 2009. I also had a negative small fiber skin test and NCV and EMG.
I believe it means no damage to nerves, but the sensations are real and my Doc. calls my Dx. Paresthesia, to me that is a symptom, not a dx., but that is the best he can give me with my neg. tests. I also believe as time goes on, damage may occur and retesting may be necessary. I don't think the result of damage is carved in stone, but it may occur. If one can find out the cause of the PN, we could prevent progression and damage. Mine appears to be idiopathic, no cause found, therefore no way to control outcome.

This is my "take" on all of this.

[gardening1]

That is what he says is causing my symptoms so far too- paresthesia. It is interesting that my first neuro. called it idiopathic PN without tests supporting it (back in 2002) but my current one believes that a test must show it.


[QUOTE=invisable;721820]

Originally Posted by gardening1

Hi,
I am new to this site. I have a question. I started having crawling sensations in my arms in 2002. It got better. I had a NCV done then and it was normal. Doc at UAB said it was PN that didn't show up.

My symptoms started again in September 2010. Well the small fiber skin test is fairly new, right? I am being tested for that and will get the results in 2 weeks. The doc seems to think that if nothing shows up on that test, then I don't have neuropathy and nothing is really wrong with me. I've already had a recent NCV and it was normal. My current symptoms are crawling sensations all over, extreme sensitivity to touch, and occasional shooting pains.



Mine also come and go. I do not have sensitivity to touch, but I know that is a PN symptom. My symptoms started in May 2009. I also had a negative small fiber skin test and NCV and EMG.
I believe it means no damage to nerves, but the sensations are real and my Doc. calls my Dx. Paresthesia, to me that is a symptom, not a dx., but that is the best he can give me with my neg. tests. I also believe as time goes on, damage may occur and retesting may be necessary. I don't think the result of damage is carved in stone, but it may occur. If one can find out the cause of the PN, we could prevent progression and damage. Mine appears to be idiopathic, no cause found, therefore no way to control outcome.

This is my "take" on all of this.

[rose_thorn98]

Some Dr.'s will only diagnose it as neuropathy if there is a test to comfirm it. Mine are all in that boat. I have no diagnosis, but have the parasthesias all over with burning pain. How come so many of us have this and nobody can tell us what it is?

[Jomar]

Originally Posted by gardening1

Hi,
I am new to this site. I have a question. I started having crawling sensations in my arms in 2002. It got better. I had a NCV done then and it was normal. Doc at UAB said it was PN that didn't show up.

My symptoms started again in September 2010. Well the small fiber skin test is fairly new, right? I am being tested for that and will get the results in 2 weeks. The doc seems to think that if nothing shows up on that test, then I don't have neuropathy and nothing is really wrong with me. I've already had a recent NCV and it was normal. My current symptoms are crawling sensations all over, extreme sensitivity to touch, and occasional shooting pains.

Any thoughts?

[crawling sensations in my arms in 2002]

Could your symptoms back then have been some sort of a work related injury? Like a repetitive motion injury - lots of desk work, static & forward head postures??

but now symptoms all all over your body??
Possibly...RSD?? if not PN?
Have you read on our RSD forum? Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type I) and Causalgia (Complex Regional Pain Syndromes Type II)(RSD and CRPS)
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/forum21.html
(extreme sensitivity to touch etc}

[mrsD]

Welcome to NeuroTalk:

Did you have a vaccine before the new relapse?

Do you spray chemicals in the garden? Did this start after using some chemical, stripping furniture, new carpeting etc?

Some sensations may be toxin related. Since you had a long interval between events, I wonder if you come into contact with something that triggered you?

[gardening1]

No injury, I do spray chemicals in the garden but I use gloves.

Actually, the recurrence seems to be related to working out at the gym- although it seems strange, I know. I hadn't worked out at the gym much since my initial problems- I just walked in the neighborhood sometimes and did housework. One week, I walked on the treadmill 3 times a week for 30-45 minutes (I was walking quite fast, almost running). I was also doing weight training. Then the symptoms began and seem to be progressing.

Originally Posted by mrsD

Welcome to NeuroTalk:

Did you have a vaccine before the new relapse?

Do you spray chemicals in the garden? Did this start after using some chemical, stripping furniture, new carpeting etc?

Some sensations may be toxin related. Since you had a long interval between events, I wonder if you come into contact with something that triggered you?

[mrsD]

There can be outgassing of chemicals from commerical places.

My husband now works at home, (for security reasons), but his job requires him to go to the office for meetings, and to turn in his cases, a couple times a month. He may go more often, or less depending on what is happening.

He says whenever he goes there he itches all over. Itchy and stinging. His building is new, and also shares facility with the entire computer network that is hubbed in our metro area for the gov't. I suspect he is getting exposed to either cleaning fumes, there, or outgassing from carpet and/or building materials. He has no PN symptoms or arthritis like I have, but he does get stiff now and then since he is over 60 now.

When you work in the garden with chemicals, some get inhaled even if you wear gloves.

I'd let up on the arm resistance work. You can do that walking outside with weights. If you stop the gym for a while, and feel better then that points to something there. Chemical or overuse from working out.

One has to be a detective these days. You can not expect or rely upon a doctor to find much with PN... there are just so many triggers! And the list is growing!

[rose_thorn98]

Interesting you bring up refinishing furniture Mrs. D. I had been staining furniture and not wearing gloves, 3 weeks before I began with my symptoms in August. I have asked several Dr.s about it and they all say no way that I got a toxic exposure from it,,,,but I do still wonder.

[mrsD]

Solvents are defatting agents. They penetrate the skin by dissolving the protective layer of fats that protect you.
They get into nerves because nerves are predominately made of fat.

Here is an article with a table/list:
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1174981-overview

Also implicated are dry cleaning solvents, which may linger on clothing.