I use a combo product from a new company called OrthoNutrition. The guy who heads it is a doctor who devised a regimen to treat hairloss. The guy is brilliant and I respect him as much as Dr. Mercola(who I think everybody should listen to). You can actually post on his site about any medical problems and he will give you a natural solution. Anyway based on a Italian study on Curcumin/Resveratrol benefits for hairloss, they formulated their own and are marketing it to the general public off his natural hairloss site. They will be in GNC and Vitamin Shoppe at some point in the next year I beleive. But you can order them from this link. They also sell the best Krill Oil, Ecklonia Cava and R-Lipoic Acid as well as a De-Calcify product. The Curcumin Resveratrol product is called Antioxidant Boost. All their products contain no fillers like magnesium stearate. I am not a salesman by the way, but I can vouch for their products quality. http://immortalhair.forumandco.com/t...ng-information

I cannot find information about the Curcumin 95--- being enhanced absorption type.

There are many curcumin 95 products on the net... all are not enhanced. Enhanced have special ingredients or micellized (more expensive).

Curcumin is not absorbed easily from the GI tract. Without enhancement it remains there.

Am getting you that info. I am 100% positive it is Curcumin 95. And they formulated specifically for maximum absorption. Will return soon with with whether is enhanced absorption.

aeb105,

Not sure why you posted essentially the same list twice; it doesn't strengthen an argument. You provided only one link, and that referred to findings in mice & rats - not humans, as is the case with most of the citations you list - rats, mice, other non-human subjects, along with yeast, weasle words "resveritrol may....." and unsubstantiated studies by.... I don't know. I don't see anything there related to PN directly. Also, I'm seeing magazine articles or uncited articles from who knows where (books?) - not medical journals, etc. and the feeling I get is the same as from junk science.

If this is what you accept as credible science I wish you well (and luck). I'll wait for the real science, and err on the side of caution until then. There are other treatments known to work, or at least known not to harm if tried.

I have no doubt that there is some potential in the substance, but it's really too soon to tell, as Rafael de Cabo (from my previous) and others have stated. Taking megadoses of something that's beneficial in small quantities is risky. B-6 is a perfect example; a little is ok - a lot can be toxic, and the people doing the real work on resveratrol are warning exactly that. It's just too soon to say.

From 3/16/11:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21410504
Be well,

Doc

Not seeing an enhanced formula... these normally cost more money and the price on this one does not reflect that either.

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Zoom in.... you can see it is only 95% curcumin, which is what most other non-enhanced products have (by other reputable companies).

That would explain why they call it Curcumin 95 :rolleyes:

I stated at the beginning of that post that these are magazine citations that link to studies if you go to the site. So, if you are really interested in the studies then go to the site and grab them. :winky:


About Resveratrol and nerves:

14. Italian researchers discovered something even more profound regarding the chemistry of resveratrol. They determined that this unique chemical revitalizes nerve cells. In fact, resveratrol induced portions of the nerves to regenerate, in other words, the nerves started growing again, a feat formerly deemed impossible. A reasonable conclusion is that resveratrol is a major protector of the genes, in other words, it prevents chromosome damage. Yet, grape extracts offer another mechanism of action.

- Dr. Cass Ingram,Dr. Cass Ingram’s Lifesaving Cures

I don't have time to find all the studies as I am at work, but I have seen enough credible evidence. What is known is that Resveratrol is beneficial. What I find ridiculous is that Wikipedia is claiming that Resvertrol is harmful. There is a potential for joint pain but that is only in larger quantities or those above 500gms.

And what you accept as credible science are Pharmaceutical drug companies who specifically design tests, skew outcomes and coverup damaging effects to sell a drug??? All pharmaceutical drugs are hepatotoxic(hurt your liver). Most all pharmaceutical drugs have side effects and usually cause you to take other pharmaceutical drugs to take up for those side effects. Elavil is not good for you no matter what your doctor tells you. But it will curb your pain. However, there are more beneficial natural substances that will do the same and give you side-Benefits. But it is your health your playing with.

I used to not pay attention to what my body was telling me about 10 years ago and just listened to my doctor. I have Neuropathy now because of his bad advice and careless, callous, drug companies who want nothing more than to slow bleed their customers with toxic symptom based treatment instead of beneficial healthy solutions. I feel 100% better now than I ever did on their poison. If you can't feel your nerves, and trigger your pain all time, like I did on Elavil, your only getting worse. These natural solutions can stop your neuropathy from getting worse and make you feel better. Resveratrol in moderate doses is not harmful. That is ridiculous and a perfect example of misinformation or mixed up information.

I basically won't quibble with the "value" of the antioxidants.

Just keep in mind that quality resveratrol costs ALOT of money and the ones used in the studies were high quality (this is true for other supplements as well.. and sometimes a special form or formula is made especially for that study as was done with the bipolar fish oil.)

The price of that supplement combo does not suggest that any special product, or enhancement was done for the 3 ingredients included in it.

The supplement world is full of stuff...many things that just are not bioavailable (properly absorbed). Magnesium oxide is still out there in cal/mag supplements, and the magnesium just is not absorbed. Also there can be much dishonesty in the supplement producers claims too.

One expects quality/purity and honesty, and also bioavailability.
The last one costs money to produce and test, so the cost is passed on the the consumer. The LongVida Curcumin therefore costs about $80.00 because of the research and development and production of it.

If you saw Dr. Mercola on Dr. Oz's recently, you would have seen him say--- supplements don't kill people like drugs do.
And that is true if they are not adulterated like some Chinese ones are. It is also true they may not work. If you choose to spend your money knowing this, it is your decision after all.

Mrs. D-

What I am saying is that it definitely works for me. I have taken Curcumin Jarrow's BC-95 by itself and Now Resveratrol both separately in the past and remember there effects perfectly. This combo supplement does the same thing. This is a quality product. I get the same neuro and gastro boost from both really. And Dr. Simonis' thought is that natural substances have a tendency to work with your body while pharmaceuticals force it(against its will) to do something often causing damage. I have never heard of supplements killing people or companies being sued because of it..........so I kinda agree with him. Nothing is perfect however and there are always swindlers in every business, so you have to know and trust your sources. Just because it comes from China does not make it disreputable unless your source and company are. Most all Resveratrol, even Jarrow's comes from China. If what I am taking is weak or bad for me, it sure it showing me the total opposite. But, I emailed the guy and will get you all pertinent info once it arrives.

The burden of proof lies with the individual making the claims. I have provided links supporting my statements. It is not up to us to pursue the untamed ornithoid to support your statements.

If that is a question, the answer is no. If it is an inference, then it is incorrect.

Anything we ingest has potential side effects, and many things can hurt your liver. However I disagree that most drugs usually cause one to take other drugs to counter side effects. That statement sounds reactionary.

I think this topic is about exhausted.

Doc