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Old 08-23-2011, 11:59 AM #1
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A number of years ago several people on the board, including myself, used the Rebuilder. Most seemed to feel it helped with pain, and a few felt it helped with symptoms in a cumulative way, if I remember correctly.

I've just taken another look at their website, and they are designed a little differently, but with a better explanation of how the machine works. I'm wondering if anybody has used it, and if so, what their response has been? Has their insurance paid? It is very pricey. I recall way back when, that they were giving discounts to most who asked. But perhaps I mis-remember.

http://www.rebuildermedical.com/
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Search Rebuilder on our search engine. You will find over 70 posts about it.
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Default Wow.

Thanks, Mrs, D., I did the search, and was astounded to find the recent thread, long and controversial. I had not imagined that it would have caused this much excitement all over again.

I was startled at their new website's advertising--they are now saying that the machine actually measures signals that the nerves are generating and sends back impulses that are the negative the what is measured. But I know for sure the unit I bought a decade ago didn't measure a thing. It was a pure output unit.

A lot of whoo-ey.
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Well, I personally think the new website is rather evasive and makes claims expansively. I tend to agree with you. The cost is huge if one does not have insurance.

With the popularity of this forum and our previous one, the track record of Rebuilder remains sketchy at best. (I hope this comment does not bring out the shills here!)
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I know a retired person (from where I work at) told me about it... He was diagnosed with idiotic (Idiopathic) neuropathy... did some researching and found this machine... and SWEARS by it... says its really helped him out... hardly any more pain... I'd like to try one... but don't want to spend the $$$ on it if it doesn't work...
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Ed... There have been some who liked it but not many. I guess that when long time frames are involved with an advertised product/device, and we don't hear the stampeding hooves and trumpeting of miraculous results, then the response is limited or poor.

Basically it is a IFc type electrical device. (inferential current)

This link I found that examines the claims...such as "FDA approved" explains it better than I can.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/...ealth-devices/

I mentioned in an earlier thread this summer that I did not like the graphic on the Rebuilder website. This is why...
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But the nonsense goes further. They make up out of whole cloth, as far as I can tell, the idea that neuropathy is caused by the synapse between two neurons widening – and of course the Rebuilder rebuilds this connection. But this is not based upon any real science. First of all, most neuropathy does not involve any interneuronal connections. Sensory nerves, for example, have their cell bodies in ganglia just outside the spinal cord and their sensory organs in the skin. So this is a single cell and a single axon – there are not interneuronal synapses until you get to the spinal cord, and by definition you are no longer dealing with a peripheral neuropathy but a central disorder. Neuropathy occurs typically in the axon itself, not with any connection.
IFc is very good for pain. I had it in my PT when I had a severe painful tendon injury. IFc units can be purchased for about $150 plus the replenishment periodically of the pads it has. One has to know how to use it, and apply the electrode pads.

It may very well be that for those with circulation problems the Rebuilder may work some...but PN is a huge problem with many presentations and variants. Say, someone with damaged mitochondria, applying electrical current won't work since the cells are damaged. Mitochondria work chemically not electrically. But that is just my take on it. When the mitochondria stop working the cell cannot maintain itself and hence the axon dies, or the autoimmune antibodies attack it from the outside. Neither process is "electrical". But the RESULT is that the electrical message from the sensory periphery cannot go further because the cell is damaged inside.

Look at it this way. If the maker of this device which is so spectacular all PNers will benefit... he could lower his prices, sell to a million more people and still profit richly. But he charges huge prices to try to manipulate the buyer into thinking it is a great thing and sells fewer units. The masses are not getting this wonderful machine...because basically it is most likely only going to help a small section of the PNers. This concept is illustrated often today in our world. Look at cell phones, and computers. They work splendidly and provide a great benefit and hence their costs come down over time. The Rebuilder's cost goes UP over time! (as an example... my old cell phone..a huge bag phone in the boonies (our summer island) cost almost $20 a call to home. Now it is FREE with a low monthly charge.) The DEMAND for this service eventually solved the cost problem.
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I have idiopathic neuropathy in my feet. I tried the rebuilder and was even given an extension to their performance guarantee of 45 days. It never did anything for me so I returned it for my money back as stated in their website. Well lo and behold, they are appear to be broke and couldn't make good on the money back guarantee. So now they have the Rebuilder they sent me AND my money. They offered to send the Rebuilder back but that wouldn't do me any good. They seem to be sincere about wanting to return my money but who knows. I've been in business for a long time and can see the handwriting on the wall. I suspect they will close their doors soon unless some angel investor comes to their rescue.
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I have idiopathic neuropathy in my feet. I tried the rebuilder and was even given an extension to their performance guarantee of 45 days. It never did anything for me so I returned it for my money back as stated in their website. Well lo and behold, they are appear to be broke and couldn't make good on the money back guarantee. So now they have the Rebuilder they sent me AND my money. They offered to send the Rebuilder back but that wouldn't do me any good. They seem to be sincere about wanting to return my money but who knows. I've been in business for a long time and can see the handwriting on the wall. I suspect they will close their doors soon unless some angel investor comes to their rescue.
Nah !!!
They'll just bankrupt this company and continue to do business under a new corporate name. Or sell out all the stocks for one dollar to another company (that they've created with the same people) and a new board of directors and not have to pay the debt, or pay 5 cents on the dollar to get out from under their obligations.
They'll still keep on doing what they are doing now- snake oil salesman, that are as slippery as that snake themselves.....IMHO
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