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11-16-2011, 02:36 AM | #1 | ||
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I found an article recently entitled "Is Cortisol Good or Bad?" (Byron Richards) while trying to find out why my nerves seem ridiculously sensitive under stress. You've heard the expression "my nerves are shot"; this study perhaps gets closer to the science behind it. It sounds as if it's not just B12 that can be depleted by stress and cause nerve problems.
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11-16-2011, 09:06 AM | #2 | |||
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The article, from 2008, can be found here:
http://www.wellnessresources.com/hea...d_or_bad/#ref1 It is interesting stuff, and goes along with what I've been posting in other forums about adrenal hormone (cortisol is one of the adrenal hormones involved) "fatigue"/suppression and chronic/intractable pain. What I'm wondering now (from a few statements in this article) is if there could also be some kind of connection between cortisol suppression/depletion (which I have) and PN(?) Another possible clue/lead to track down. Thanks for posting it; I learn something every day here. Doc
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11-16-2011, 07:59 PM | #3 | ||
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In 1997 I went to an endocrinologist. He ordered a cortisol blood test and the reading came back at 1. He said if it had been any lower, I'd be dead. I don't know if he was right (cortisol testing now is seen as most accurate when it's by saliva testing), but I always remembered what he said. Since then I have wondered if my cortisol level has been low, because I've had other symptoms of adrenal fatigue, and fail the pupil test. I've also suspected low cortisol has affected or even caused my current peripheral neuropathy, which I didn't have back in the 90s. It seems to be a vicious cycle. If your cortisol is low, your nerves overheat; that heat/burning causes you more stress, which in turn drives your cortisol even lower. Sleep is a huge issue when you have chronic adrenal fatigue. My days are horrible when I don't get enough sleep. I've tried to get my adrenal health corrected but the burning wakes me up, and keeps me up. I don't think my adrenal glands will ever heal until I can get enough sleep every night. One night about a month ago, when I had my worst sleep in years, the PN burning and prickling was the worst I'd ever experienced. I'm gradually becoming more and more convinced of cortisol's importance for nerve health. |
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11-16-2011, 11:46 PM | #4 | |||
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http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread130991.html I experienced further improvement after adding pantothenic acid (B5) to the regimen. I learned about cortisol's (and other adrenal hormones') connection to chronic pain from several articles by Dr. Forest Tennant. As recommended in one of those articles, I had my cortisol levels checked (along with testosterone & pregnenolone). "Adrenal Fatigue" is not recognized by most of the medical community, but "adrenal insufficiency" is, so that was the approach I took with my doctor, as my tests were extremely low in all three. I began supplementing them by taking pregnenolone with B5 (which I was already taking with the RLA) which is converted to all the other adrenal hormones internally. http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread156416.html Since you're on-board with the article you originally posted, you might look into trying RLA & B5 for your PN pain. Doc
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11-17-2011, 07:29 AM | #5 | |||
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I have a comment, about this link being discussed here.
I find that a rat study, provoking interpretation of memory signalling in the brain of rats, to be very basic and therefore paraphrasing, to say cortisol is a "nerve lubricant" to be simplistic and perhaps a ploy to then entice people to buy the products that website sells. This is the article from Nature: http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/...s/nn.2150.html The following is from Science News Daily: This common science reporting site, was not credited on the Wellness site at all. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0807072125.htm Quote:
This later article, 2011, goes into more detail about memory and cortisol: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0406102137.htm Quote:
http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v2.../1395737a.html
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11-17-2011, 12:35 PM | #6 | ||
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I don't have time to follow up on any of the links or post anything intelligent (LOL) this AM but I'm all over this one. Dr. Smith, what are the forums re:adrenal supression?
Thanks, Zygo |
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11-17-2011, 01:46 PM | #7 | ||
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The amount of heat my nerves give off is extreme. I virtually burned my hands one day when they were cold and I touched my leg. I could never understand where the heat was coming from because my core temperature is usually low at 96.8F. |
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11-17-2011, 01:51 PM | #8 | ||
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more engaged with myself and self aware - but throughout the day im piratically in stasis sometimes. melon |
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11-17-2011, 02:12 PM | #9 | |||
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I searched this concept about nerves giving off heat and found this:
http://scienceblog.com/12738/physici...d-more-likely/ Quote:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21050282 In general heat sensing neurons are over ridden by cold ones. That is why menthol which stimulates the cold sensory neurons, overcomes sensations of heat when applied to the skin. (when no actual cold is present). It is why menthol is included in many pain rubs, and why Biofreeze feels cold when it does not general cold temperature.
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11-17-2011, 03:29 PM | #10 | ||
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You might like this MrsD, it might explain why you have so many cats Heres another link that challanges the idea of nerves work. melon |
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