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Old 03-29-2012, 12:31 PM #11
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okkkk.
isnt that great

what is the type of magnesium you take please??
i take a chelated version 500mg at night with some calcium and i used to add zince but stopped the latter. cant remember why

i have cold feet on *bad* days. burning hot cold feet. otherwise they are just painful and burning hot.
my hands will go abnormally cold with cold water or cold weather or picking up frozen things. our winters here are not terrible like north american ones, but by night in the winter i am usually careful about the water temps and might wear gloves to pick up frozen anything

i have temperature regulation problems too so i tend to not feel the cold except in my hands and feet but the summer is a problem for me

maybe my magnesium is helping me and i dont know it?????

sooo........you reckon barometric pressure Mrs D.
i decided that was probably a trigger for me..... but unless i keep track of it as i once did for my son for a science thing......it is so variable around here that it is tricky to keep track of if the pain is worse before or after or during the change

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I take magnesium malate and some magnesium oil on a daily basis. The oil is a bit uncomfortable (stingy) on the skin, but it does absorb rapidly and you can shower it off maybe a 1/2 hour or so after putting it on.

I think the oral supplements do not absorb into the body as effectively as the transdermal type. Also, my wife has a hard time with the oral supplements. They upset her stomach.

I think my problem was due to using acid blockers for too many years. They reduce levels of magnesium in the body over time. Also, I'm an exercise fanatic which also uses up more magnesium than normal. Of course , there are many other factors that can effect your magnesium levels.

I do know it has helped me. My periods of coldness can be measured in minutes rather than hours over the course of a day. It may not be a cure, but it can make a big difference to some people.
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It doesn't matter how you get your magnesium... but our bodies do need it to function.

Just don't overdo it. And get periodic kidney function tests with your check ups. Stay within RDA guidelines, and you should do well.

I am having good response to the lotion myself. I tend to get really loose on oral versions, but I still take them occasionally.
I eat nuts and beans, also, which are good sources.
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It doesn't matter how you get your magnesium... but our bodies do need it to function.

Just don't overdo it. And get periodic kidney function tests with your check ups. Stay within RDA guidelines, and you should do well.

I am having good response to the lotion myself. I tend to get really loose on oral versions, but I still take them occasionally.
I eat nuts and beans, also, which are good sources.
I know that if you take large oral doses above recommended levels that your body will purge it. Most often the result is loose bowel movements which are a good indicator that you should reduce dosage!

I'm not sure about the transdermal method. Does your body know when it has had enough and will it stop absorbing it? I'm thinking the excess amounts will get flushed through the kidneys. The lotion will not cause loose bowel movements to my knowledge so using it in moderation is well warranted.

In the end it would appear you get better absorption of the product using the lotion vs. the oral method for RDA levels.

You are correct that poor kidney function and over supplementaion of magnesium is a very bad mix.
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There are actually very few poisonings from magnesium.

I've seen figures that they are below 20 and mostly involve,
enemas and IVs. Chemo patients get IVs ...and one culprit,
Fleet PhosphoSoda was taken off the market. Millions used it
for bowel preps for xrays etc. Infants and the elderly are at most risk.

I found this paper on epsom salts absorption recently:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post864114-32.html

The kidneys will get rid of excess for the majority of people.
Anyone with severe kidney failure should be monitored by a doctor, etc.

This is an example of a iatrogenic (medical cause) of overdose:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8740750

This is another.... chronic gargling with magnesium salts???
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11858925

enemas are always problematic when drugs or things are added to them: This is a child/7yrs old!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15759964

And elderly:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7620603
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