advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-27-2012, 09:26 AM #21
Apollo Apollo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 240
10 yr Member
Apollo Apollo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 240
10 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsD View Post
Good luck...and do come back to let us all know.

It might really be a boon for some here!





... I have a question.

If Laser really works by helping to regenerate (and essentially re-activate) damaged nerves, then should we not initially experence a worsening of burning and discomfort BEFORE feeling longer term comfort, as those damaged nerves first come back to life?

However, based on pervious discussions, people report feeling better almost immediately (within a few sessions) without ever first feeling a worsening of symptoms.

Thoughts?
Apollo is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
echoes long ago (04-27-2012)

advertisement
Old 04-27-2012, 11:45 AM #22
mrsD's Avatar
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
mrsD mrsD is offline
Wisest Elder Ever
mrsD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Great Lakes
Posts: 33,508
15 yr Member
Lightbulb

I don't think anyone knows at this point. Notice that MDs are not using this treatment for the most part, and it is Chiros doing it.

That reveals much.

Like Glenn has commented, it may be a way of increasing circulation. And I tend to favor that idea as my swelling left foot responds very quickly to the little laser I have. The effect lasts for a few days and wears off for me. My left foot has dramatic swelling from the surgery I had many years ago, and is acting up more and more as the nerves have regenerated. It was pretty numb on top for decades. (tumor removal).
__________________
All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.-- Galileo Galilei

************************************

.
Weezie looking at petunias 8.25.2017


****************************
These forums are for mutual support and information sharing only. The forums are not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider. Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.
mrsD is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 04-28-2012, 07:02 AM #23
glenntaj glenntaj is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 2,857
15 yr Member
glenntaj glenntaj is offline
Magnate
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 2,857
15 yr Member
Default While this is all anecdotal--

--and anecdotes are not data, etc., at the various neuropathy support groups I've gone to, and also at the large neuropathy convention in Washington I went to in late 2010, a number of people who did do laser/anodyne type therapies did report that their nerves did seem to "wake up" and cause them more discomfort for a while, and then gradually get better, though the effects varied widely.

We've had a number of people report on this board that nerves that were later proved to be regenerating often caused an increase in pain/parastheses for a time. I certainly noticed some weird flares that would start randomly and then fade in days/weeks. I've always suspected this occurs as the nerve growth cones proceed and have to fight through and around other structures, often undergoing some compression, and this involved irregular nerve signals that the brain must learn to re-interpret. This is why it can be difficult to know if one's new flare represents a progression of symptoms or a turn towards healing, except in long-term retrospect--a good reason to keep a symptom diary.
glenntaj is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 10:06 PM #24
Apollo Apollo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 240
10 yr Member
Apollo Apollo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 240
10 yr Member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by glenntaj View Post
--and anecdotes are not data, etc., at the various neuropathy support groups I've gone to, and also at the large neuropathy convention in Washington I went to in late 2010, a number of people who did do laser/anodyne type therapies did report that their nerves did seem to "wake up" and cause them more discomfort for a while, and then gradually get better, though the effects varied widely.

We've had a number of people report on this board that nerves that were later proved to be regenerating often caused an increase in pain/parastheses for a time. I certainly noticed some weird flares that would start randomly and then fade in days/weeks. I've always suspected this occurs as the nerve growth cones proceed and have to fight through and around other structures, often undergoing some compression, and this involved irregular nerve signals that the brain must learn to re-interpret. This is why it can be difficult to know if one's new flare represents a progression of symptoms or a turn towards healing, except in long-term retrospect--a good reason to keep a symptom diary.






I completed a controlled test of five sessions of true laser therapy on my left palm, which suffers from Small Fiber Neuropathy. I then left the right palm (with the same problem) alone untreated as a control.

Sessions began at 2 minutes, then went to 5 minutes, and finished at 8 minutes in the final few sessions of my laser treatment sessions.

I then waited several weeks to see if I noticed any difference, and unfortunately to date have not noticed any improvement whatsoever.

David
Apollo is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
"Thanks for this!" says:
mrsD (06-07-2012)
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
help from laser light? paula_w Parkinson's Disease 0 07-20-2010 07:16 AM
Laser therapy for rsd Maizy Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) 7 06-24-2010 04:35 PM
Study: light box therapy for MIDDAY light Mari Bipolar Disorder 10 12-15-2009 09:39 AM
Anyone know about cold laser therapy? debbiehub Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) 4 08-01-2009 08:50 AM
Laser Therapy HeidiNL Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (RSD and CRPS) 3 03-20-2007 05:25 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:52 AM.

Powered by vBulletin • Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise v2.7.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

NeuroTalk Forums

Helping support those with neurological and related conditions.

 

The material on this site is for informational purposes only,
and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment
provided by a qualified health care provider.


Always consult your doctor before trying anything you read here.