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Old 12-20-2012, 06:05 PM #21
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Sadly most doctors are way too late to the game. It's usually out of control by the time a dr will give a diabetes diagnosis.

My moms husband gets spikes of 200 and above and the dr said since it comes back down to lower numbers in 2 hours he should just try to change his eating habits....WHAT?

Sometimes its the dang doctors that kill us. That and our stupidity to simply believe everything they say.
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My damn doctor has drawn a line in the sand at 7.0 HBA1C for any intervention. That's an average blood sugar of around 170 I believe, and I am paying dearly for it. Can't believe I bought his indifference.
BlueSkyBaby, once my cholesterol hit 88 my doctor put me on cholesterol meds>simvastatin which who knows i might be paying the price for taking a simvastatin then changed me to pravastatin.I need to talked to my doctor to put me on a cholesterol thats a non statin.
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Billy, did you stop taking the B12 for a week before the tests?

If you didn't, then your higher number may reflect your intake and not be stable.
MrsD, talked to nurse today and i have to update my med info with what Vits i'm taking and if i didn't take a B-12 pill that day then the 727 is a real number.Basically with B-12 the body will only absorb what it can and the rest goes out when you urinate.I wonder what caused my copper to go up from 88 to 114
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The B12 takes 72 hrs to be removed from the blood ....
This link says 6 days...but I have a pharmacology text that says 72 hrs. The 1/2 life is in the far right of this link and on other from medical sites on Google:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
Half life is one half of the total time it takes the vitamin to leave the serum.
This is another link:
http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/si...rm+@DOCNO+2850

You have to discontinue it at least 3 days or more to get an accurate reading when taking supplements. Supplements being taken always give a higher than normal reading when tests are done, because the ranges were made with NO SUPPLEMENTS present.

I wouldn't expect a nurse to know what the absorption or excretion of B12 would be. Only about 13mcg are absorbed anyway from the GI tract. I have the studies on the B12 thread here.

People taking their B12 correctly orally often get levels of 1000 or more on testing after several months.
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The B12 takes 72 hrs to be removed from the blood ....
This link says 6 days...but I have a pharmacology text that says 72 hrs. The 1/2 life is in the far right of this link and on other from medical sites on Google:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
Half life is one half of the total time it takes the vitamin to leave the serum.
This is another link:
http://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/si...rm+@DOCNO+2850

You have to discontinue it at least 3 days or more to get an accurate reading when taking supplements. Supplements being taken always give a higher than normal reading when tests are done, because the ranges were made with NO SUPPLEMENTS present.

I wouldn't expect a nurse to know what the absorption or excretion of B12 would be. Only about 13mcg are absorbed anyway from the GI tract. I have the studies on the B12 thread here.

People taking their B12 correctly orally often get levels of 1000 or more on testing after several months.
Thanks MrsD, Thats why i love this board lots of good info. I'll retest in march.
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--though that hemoglobin A1c number translates into an average blood glucose number of 101, a 5.0 would be much better in terms of fasting blood glucose; the average would be of all states over time, including after eating. It probably points to a fasting blood glucose in the low/mid 80's, which I'd take any day. a 5.0 level is quite commendable. (Mine is around 5.7 right now, which is listed at the borderline for impaired glucose tolerance, and my fasting blood glucose is right around 100-105. I'm fighting to get it down below that level and have lost about 10 pounds with modifications in diet and lots of exercise since the last draw--I'm just hoping the holiday season doesn't cause too much compromise.)
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BlueSkyBaby, once my cholesterol hit 88 my doctor put me on cholesterol meds>simvastatin which who knows i might be paying the price for taking a simvastatin then changed me to pravastatin.I need to talked to my doctor to put me on a cholesterol thats a non statin.
88? Is that LDL? Do you have a stent or cardiac bypass?
That is really low IMO. Please research the posts here... type "statin" into out search engine, for recent discussions on side effects etc.
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88? Is that LDL? Do you have a stent or cardiac bypass?
That is really low IMO. Please research the posts here... type "statin" into out search engine, for recent discussions on side effects etc.
Mrs.D, sorry i meant was my glucose use to be 88.When my total Cholesterol hit 223 they put me on a statin now its 188.One doctor did make a comment about the use of a statin and the timing of whats going on is suspect. Yes i did search about statins and i emailed my doc today and i want off of them.

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Got results on one more blood test.Cryoglobulin Qual Blood>None Detected at 72 hours.I starting to think my problem is from the statin i'm taking.Waiting on 2 more test i think, plus what my new mri might show.
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That is a relief that those cryoglobulins are normal. This is an untreatable condition and can be very debilitating, and some have to even MOVE to warmer climates etc.

Do you know what your cholesterol was before the statin?

You will be interested to learn a new form of drug that is NOT a statin is being investigated, and is supposed to be better. We'll see on that. According to some new research lowering cholesterol at all by any means is not a good idea.

This researcher is working independent of drug company money and is finding out interesting things.
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/

There are some very interesting YouTubes with her too.
I suggest you watch them when you get a chance.
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