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Old 04-20-2007, 07:27 AM #1
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Lightbulb For David: IFc protocols/placement

Here David...is the link to the placement of electrodes (mostly 4) for various body problems using IFc.

http://rehabilicare.com/protocol.html

Here is a suggested placement for shoulder:
http://rehabilicare.com/pdfs/if2/shoulder.pdf

And this for foot/neuroma:
http://rehabilicare.com/pdfs/if2/neuroma.pdf

(I might try this one myself! I only used it for my thigh/leg..since I have that sesamoid problem sometimes! )
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Default Thanks for the links.

I cut and pasted the relevant info. into a word document for later reference. I'll wait until I have an injury that interferental therapy is indicated for (to justify the expense). Then I'll also try it on my feet and legs.

The placements look familiar from Physical Therapy. The shoulder pain was actually around the rim of the left scapula, with muscle cramping all around. The pain was worse than PN pain in that it was closer to my center of existence, my head. It needed Fentanyl for me to sleep at all. Weaker opiates had little effect. I limited myself to one dose per 24 hour period because it caused severe constipation. That dose allowed 4 hours of sleep, then lidocaine patches allowed another 2-3 hours. Three times a week PT consisted of deep massage, stretching, neck traction, and the wonderfully soothing interferential electro-therapy while lying on a large moist wet pack.

I hope jakatak tries interferential electrotherapy as part of his healing program. The cost is minimal, less than a doctor's visit, a prescription, or several co-pays. There are no bad side effects unless the person sets the current too high.

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Thanks for posting that link Mrs D - I had lost that one when my computer crashed.
I also placed the link on TOS & the RSD forums for those members.
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Way back in 2004, I received interferential therapy for pain in my feet, particularly the throbbing and stabbing pain that kept me awake when I lay down. I was treated by the professional unit and the throbbing pain was greatly diminished at night and the stabbing pains were reduced also, but not eliminated. After that course of treatment i bought the unit that Mrs. D has a link too and continue to use it. It is not as strong as the professional model, but the throbbing pain at night has not returned in three years now. I believe it also helps to keep my stabbing and the pliers on the toe pains from appearing as frequetly and as strongly. I also take wellbutrin which helps with pain, so its hard to tell where one starts and the other leaves off. I use the unit much as the rebuilder in a divided bucket of water with epsom salts and the leads, one each side, put into the water. I have based on the emg/ncs severe sensory/motor axonal PN with demylination. I really feel that this unit keeps me in the ballgame pain wise. My main pain problem now is standing and walking. It feels like I am walking on broken bones.
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I was recently diagnosed with idiopathic neuropathy and have an interspec-IF interferential. Can someone give me the information on where to place the electrodes?. The pain and burning in both my feet is intense and travels to below my knees at times. Thank you.
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Actually using the water, placement is not an issue. If it is your feet which are usually the most painful i would put the electrodes one on top of your foot in the center and the other above the ankle on the calf. If you have four pads, top and bottom of foot and calf and front of leg. It is good to vary where you put them for effectiveness.
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Lightbulb hmmm?

I see the links I had above died... were replaced when that website moved?
Blech!

Here is one explanation of how to place IFc electrodes:
http://books.google.com/books?id=tf5...fHvA#PPA358,M1
using 4.

Here is one illustrating plantar placement for fascitis:
http://www.carerehab.com/Protocols/I...ciitis_IFC.pdf

This one is BIG... more examples:
http://www.wecontrolpain.com/downloa...nt%20guide.pdf

IFc units typically have 4 electrodes...notice how they cross and make an X with + -
and - +

I don't know anything about the Rebuilder...I've never used that.
But IFc is very nice and I had alot of that at PT with ultrasound too.
I have a small IFc unit at home, and have used it for acute pain occasionally.
But not often lately.
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Thanks so much mrsd and heyjoe!
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really thatnks Mrs.D ,wasn't there some one who was big on the rebuilder
or am I confused and that was you Hey Joe. Want to talk to my PT
about all of this sounds better than a ton of pills. Sue
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interesting the x placement of the electrodes, making a concentrated field.

Elsie using them in the foot bath makes the conduction much stronger. My feet are very numb so i dont really feel the dry placement of electrodes anymore. That broken bones feeling is still my main problem pain wise even though i have been sick for the last ten weeks and off my feet most of the time.
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