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Old 02-01-2008, 09:52 AM #11
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I had severe muscle weakness....but mine came in mini steps.
It all began 4+ years ago right after I'd finished a second infusion of Remicade for Crohns disease.
Then shortly after that I had a double bowel resection, my rotted intestines AND an AVM, anuerism like mass that caused severe anemia.
They wondered if I'd caught something from all the blood transfusnions, lost count after 25 I'd received during a 2 year period of time.
But after the surgery...I got much worse with muscle weakness....so bad that I was then totally bedridden! Needed full time care just for basic grooming. I could only sit in the corner shower seat while others soaped me down....then crawel back into bed to have others dry me off.
I needed a walker just to get to the toilet...but wore Depends most of time, I was THAT ill! That was the summer from H3LL!
After the bowel resection my muscle weakness just increased. I had every diagnosis imaginable...from NutCase,Polymyositis,Meneirs, MS to possible ALS....even sent to ALS center here on Pill Hill...what a nightmare that was!
I wanted to die....even to the point I made an attempt...too fatigued to pull the trigger! ...I gave up, went back to bed!
With increasing weakness, other symptoms began appearing such as burning lips and total loss of my balance. I had to hang onto walls just to keep from falling my balance was that off. I drueled mostly too fatigued to swallow! Then the burning began in my hands and feet....EMG and NC test showed classic sock glove pattern moderate levels of PN....was scheduled for more muscle studies and muscle biopsies....I was too fatigued to even allow anyone to drag me to those appointments....I'd cry and cancel all of this!
No one can even begin to understand this kind of fatigue!
And I was sick of the dimissive roll eye's received by Neuro's when I'd ask if my burning lips could be some sort of vit or min def....well duh people!
Didn't they know that anyone with long standing bouts of D-rea causes mal absorbtion! And 2+ years of deadly low anemia played a part in this as well, and Remicade AND surgery strips your body of vitamins and minerals!
No S Sherlock! But the PN burn, fatigue and now spinal cord pain whenever I put my chin to chest....felt like shock wave and burn down my spine...doc said...well...just dont do this! Well duh! Too many stupid "Sherlocks" each pointing in other directions.
One day my DH gave me a laptop...at least I could muddle thru a few web sites searching the cause of PN as I'm non diabetic....I wanted to know "WHY"!....then I found a web site where Rose talked about Methyl B12, simple vitamin deficiancy may be the cause of what was going on with me.
Could it be? So glad I took her advice...within 10 days I miraculously got out of bed and did a load of laundery when my care giver came over! OMG! After half a year of 100% bedridden and taking just a few tablets under my tongue, OK...it was more than just a few! It can't hurt you...so I was eating them like candy after my husband had purchased a few bottles for me that Labor Day weekend.
I hug Rose every day of my new life! That's what was wrong! B12 deficiancy, big time even thou was told it was normal level...232 is normal level? Yeah doc....and wearing a white coat makes you smart! NOT!
My walker sits in the garage collecting cobwebs now and although I'm not totally cured/well....at least I'm on the road to wellness and no longer suffering horrible fatigue, and PN is almost 90% gone....EMG back to normal!
Could it be?......YOU BET! I have zero doubts! Not one single shred!
Blessings, cheryl

This is an amazing story. May I reprint it at the TOS site? Why? Because you're such a survivor! I am in awe of you! I have some similar symptoms, but we have mostly upper body with severe nerve pain and loss of use of arms / hands. We have a surgery where they remove a cervical rib and muscle area called scalenes. But I am going to attach the link so that we also remember about nutrition.

God bless you Cheryl. You're my idol now.
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Old 02-10-2008, 02:18 AM #12
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Hi Vanessa! I have Prominent Sensory Polyneuropathy and have much muscle weakness in both upper arms and both legs, right leg especially. My understanding is that since I have much demyelinating and axonal involvement, the nerves that control the muscles, well can't always do their job as adequately as they use to. As you mentioned, just going through the grocery store is a big challenge. . .I have to hang onto a cart or my thigh muscles with cramp up and spasm. I also have the pins and needles, the
"Electric Shock" sensations (boy they are fun!), and extensive body burning that is chronic. Have had a dull pounding headach now for 5 weeks. Doc can't figure out why. My blood work is all good, vitals are great. It's hard for me to exercise as I also have moderate lumbar stenosis, which causes me alot of spinal pain. But hey, could be worse. My days are what I decide to make of them, and I usually can deal with it all with a smile and some laughter.

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Hello everyone!

After reading through the different posts in PN for the past few weeks, it seems like there are many who suffer from nerve pain only. My symptoms with CIDP are predominantly weakness in my upper arms, neck and legs. It is strange too because the weakness in my left arm is greater than in my right arm and my weakness in my right leg is greater than in my left leg.

My biggest challenge is walking! It's exhausting! Just to get around the block takes me so long. I am someone who was in good shape and walked everywhere.

Is there anyone else suffering from the same problems with weakness? I would love to hear other stories about how you cope with this. Any good exercises, vitamins, diets???

Thanks!
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Muscular weakness is not unusual with PN. Muscle biopsies done in areas where there is neuropathy are often quite abnormal. Muscle biopsies done farther away from neuropathic regions (usually the stocking and glove areas) are generally normal unless some other condition is going on.

Many hereditary myopathies are associated with neuropathies... You can have neurogenic myopathies.

You can get sarcopenia from aging, or disuse....sarcopenia is like osteopenia...one is bone (osteo) one is muscle (sarco).

People with PN generally do respond to exercise. A combination of aerobic and resistance training, stretching and balance work it best.

I think a lot of PTs are discouraged these days as it used to be a great profession to go into and now insurances have limited benefits....they seldom get to see improvements in their patients except in the most motivated of the bunch.

If you have a heritable neuropathy, the approaches are different, as those generally come with more arthropathy....altho any PN will disrupt proprioception in joints and cause joint deformity and can cause gait abnormalities which can result in fractures, ulcers or just plain deformity.

Sensory nerves give and take positional input to the tendons and ligaments...and motor neurons move muscles...you generally don't have neuropathy without some muscle involvement....the amount of and location of that involvement Proximal or Distal or both depends on the kind of neuropathy you have, or if you a comorbid myopathic condition.

There are some myopathies that do not respond to exercise, but in general, a consistent exercise program will result in gains in strength and improvement of affect.

BTW, muscle biopsies are invasive and generally not done unless there is a suspected myopathy (muscle disease). It is surgical and causes substantial swelling...and yes, they hurt.....they are not done in neuropathic areas, such as in stocking and glove distributions as that is where they will be abnormal due to the neuropathy....they are done in areas where they feel the neuropathy would not produce muscle abnormality....if abnormal there, usually additional pathology is going on.
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