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KarenEVP 03-21-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1058520)
I have lost 60 pounds and it has helped a lot of things but not my pn. :mad:

Well, I had already briefly looked into things like suzane summers books and stuff as I know I need to, so this is something on my radar. Thanks for all the helpful info you have shared Karen. If you do not come here often anymore I would love if you privately sent me a pm with your email addy so I can keep in touch with you.

Again, I am so very happy for you. It gives hope to hear your story! :hug:

I came back for Christmas to Wish Mrs. D a Merry Xmas and remind her of all that she did for me, her being the first one to help me out of total misery and Stacy, if that was you, the second with the Benfiotiamine, spell? that kept me from being bed ridden. You guys gave me courage to keep hunting, to know that it was possible to maybe get more and more relief. sharp_karen_kay@hotmail.com

and here's my fb page again, Im on there a lot
https://www.facebook.com/karen.sharp.35?ref=tn_tnmn

There are more hormones to balance other than just estrogen and progesterone, women have testosterone too and others... maybe there is something a little more outta whack. Maybe it is a food issue. One of the things I got really lucky on was figuring out that what I used to be able to handle was now royally setting off my PN. I could have just kept going endlessly, taking what I used to take and just thinking my PN was getting worse and worse instead of relieving that. It was by googling that I found that. (Coconut oil and fish oil) Endlessly googling, googling to the point where ppl would think it was ridiculous but here I am telling you guys you can be free of it. I'm the one telling you guys that. I'm the one who endlessly googled - Im the one who was brave enough to do what ppl, other sufferers advised.

Think I wasn't scared when Mrs D told me to take four and five times as much Vitamin D supplement as my orthopedic specialist did, sure I was! She told me docs don't always have the most up to date research.. still I was scared. But I did it, I figure what can it hurt for a few days to try. Then I got to be the one crying tears of joy and happiness that that horrible endless calf cramp finanlly mostly melted away. Tears of Joy. I was scared, but I tried.

A life lived in fear is a life half lived. Spanish Proverb.

It's a symphony. You might need a bioidentical specialist, you might actually need the hormone testing, you might need more in that dept than me. But awesome on the weight loss, absolutely good for you!!!!!!!!! :hug:

KarenEVP 03-21-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sallysblooms (Post 1058522)
Dr. Dzugen has good books also. I have Suzanne's books and others too.

Thanks for your book reference. :)

KarenEVP 03-21-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1058520)
I have lost 60 pounds and it has helped a lot of things but not my pn. :mad:

! :hug:

Also comes to mind, you need to spend some time googling phytoestrogens - find out which ones you may be inadvertantly ingesting. Then even figure out how to cut them all out five days, if possible. See if there's improvement. If so, you can start introducing them back into your diet, one by one, until you figure out if there is a culprit :mad: involved there. Just a thought. :) The two top phytoestrogen bombs are soy and flaxseed. HUGE amounts in both, just two different categories. That list I posted is not all inclusive, it's just a quickie list I found on a quickie google to give ppl an idea

AussieDebbie 03-22-2014 09:48 AM

Hi Karen

In case you are wondering if people take the time to read your longer posts, just wanted you to know, I for one, have read every word. :)

So, I've downloaded the book to my Ipad and will read it in bed at night. I love reading myself to sleep and that book looks so interesting.

Today I went out and searched for Diatomaceous Earth. Nobody in my area has heard of it, but my regular organic store (I buy everything from them, every day) said it sounded much like Bentonite Clay, so I bought some. I think, regardless of if it's the right/similar substance to Diatomaceous, it has enough health benefits to be of use for me and hubby. :) I'll take taking that and see if it makes any difference.

I do not believe my Dr that I have Plantar Fasciitis. It doesn't feel like I have screws under my feet, although I must admit that description does fit how my feet used to feel after many hours of walking or standing around, before the PN pain.

My pain is more stinging. It started with burning, I thought I was having hot flashes in my feet. But, within months it progressed to stinging, and electric shocks.

Unfortunately, I'm already on Lyrica & Tramadol for the pain. But, I have enough residual pain to know if other things are working.

I'm keen to try the progesterone cream now, and will ask about it tomorrow morning. Hopefully it's available without prescription here too.

I think my menopause is in the final stages. I've been going through it now for about 4 years and no longer have hot flashes. I do have a tiny 'excuse' for a period about once every 4 or 5 months. So, it's not over yet, but I do feel it getting closer. So, I'd like to get on top of this prior to post-menopause.

So now I take.....

Lyrica
Tramadol
Nerve Support Formula (Benfotiamine B12, etc.)
Multi-Vitamin
Alpha-L Acid
Magnesium
Iron
Inner Health Plus (good bacteria)
Vit C
Vit E

and now Clay!! lol :)

What would be fabulous, is if one of us here followed your advice, and in a month or so joined you in singing the praises of clay. If you have helped only 1 other person end their horror journey, won't you feel amazing!

Thank you Karen. I do hope your information helps others. Even if it's someone listening in, not speaking themselves, but taking away advice and acting on it.

Warm hugs :hug: :)

Stacy2012 03-22-2014 10:07 AM

I am not sure those two things are the same thing or do the same things.

AussieDebbie 03-22-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Stacy2012 (Post 1058694)
I am not sure those two things are the same thing or do the same things.

Yeah, me either, but I figured it's something to take in the meantime while I keep searching for the other. :)

KarenEVP 03-22-2014 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieDebbie (Post 1058684)
Hi Karen

In case you are wondering if people take the time to read your longer posts, just wanted you to know, I for one, have read every word. :)

So, I've downloaded the book to my Ipad and will read it in bed at night. I love reading myself to sleep and that book looks so interesting.

Today I went out and searched for Diatomaceous Earth. Nobody in my area has heard of it, but my regular organic store (I buy everything from them, every day) said it sounded much like Bentonite Clay, so I bought some. I think, regardless of if it's the right/similar substance to Diatomaceous, it has enough health benefits to be of use for me and hubby. :) I'll take taking that and see if it makes any difference.

I do not believe my Dr that I have Plantar Fasciitis. It doesn't feel like I have screws under my feet, although I must admit that description does fit how my feet used to feel after many hours of walking or standing around, before the PN pain.

My pain is more stinging. It started with burning, I thought I was having hot flashes in my feet. But, within months it progressed to stinging, and electric shocks.

Unfortunately, I'm already on Lyrica & Tramadol for the pain. But, I have enough residual pain to know if other things are working.

I'm keen to try the progesterone cream now, and will ask about it tomorrow morning. Hopefully it's available without prescription here too.

I think my menopause is in the final stages. I've been going through it now for about 4 years and no longer have hot flashes. I do have a tiny 'excuse' for a period about once every 4 or 5 months. So, it's not over yet, but I do feel it getting closer. So, I'd like to get on top of this prior to post-menopause.

So now I take.....

Lyrica
Tramadol
Nerve Support Formula (Benfotiamine B12, etc.)
Multi-Vitamin
Alpha-L Acid
Magnesium
Iron
Inner Health Plus (good bacteria)
Vit C
Vit E

and now Clay!! lol :)

What would be fabulous, is if one of us here followed your advice, and in a month or so joined you in singing the praises of clay. If you have helped only 1 other person end their horror journey, won't you feel amazing!

Thank you Karen. I do hope your information helps others. Even if it's someone listening in, not speaking themselves, but taking away advice and acting on it.

Warm hugs :hug: :)

Hey there Aussie Debbie

Here's the brand of diatomaceous earth that I ordered, only I ordered just a five pound bag
http://www.amazon.com/Diatomaceous-E...omaceous+earth

I can't vouch for your clay, I really just don't know anything about it.

What's going on with your feet really doesn't sound related to heel spurs to me; but no expert there either, I have had heel spurs a couple of times but then other's experiences could be different.

Good luck with all and I'm really hoping you'll get some improvement!

I hope you'll be coming back singing praises, either because of my post or someone else's. But you really sound like you need progesterone to me, based on Dr. Lee's 500 page book that I've read several times. I think that will help you a lot. If it doesn't, you could always go to the OBGYN and tell them that you'd like to try progesterone (get a bioidentical prescription or oral progesterone) for your neuropathy. Would be best if you could find a group of doctors that prescribe bioidential hormone replacement therapy. They just flat out know more. Sincerely , Karen

AussieDebbie 03-22-2014 10:21 AM

Thanks for the link Karen. :)

My GP is only suggesting heel spurs because he's run out of ideas. Personally, I thought nutrition, so went gluten-free since the start of the year. It's helped quite a few ways, so I'll stick with it, but am unsure if it's the cause of my NP. Time will tell. And in the meantime, I'm open to trying anything that may help. Can't win if you don't play the game!

KarenEVP 03-22-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieDebbie (Post 1058698)
Thanks for the link Karen. :)

My GP is only suggesting heel spurs because he's run out of ideas. Personally, I thought nutrition, so went gluten-free since the start of the year. It's helped quite a few ways, so I'll stick with it, but am unsure if it's the cause of my NP. Time will tell. And in the meantime, I'm open to trying anything that may help. Can't win if you don't play the game!

You have the right attitude, in my book. Frankly my feet have turned hot and very red on occasion, I thought it was neuropathy but that could even have been a menopausal symptom, now thinking about it more, just don't know.

Good for you on stopping gluten! I've thought of that one too, haven't done it because I'm pretty happy at the moment.

robpp 04-02-2014 07:04 PM

i invested all of $18 in the 'mud' as you call it.

took a week to work up to tablespoon.
mix it with half juice half water
stir it well and down it goes.

i find nothing negative about adding it so why not give it a try.

i did notice some extra sensitivity for a few days but gone quick.


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