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Old 03-20-2014, 02:45 PM #1
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I have not been using my statins but no my cholesterol is going up
what alternatives do you suggest then taking the drug?
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We've had this discussion a jillion times. Please search
"statins" ...and you'll find many opinions.
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Some books I've read say it is the triglyceride # that is more telling overall health wise.
but many MDs still push the statins.. and only talk about the cholesterol #

Some of the more alternative /natural health sites dispute the actual risk of higher cholesterol #s

Read about it and be informed, not just info from MDs or the traditional pro Rx drug sites.
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You're already taking R-lipoic Acid?

TRIGLYCERIDE-LOWERING PROPERTIES OF LIPOIC ACID

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Some books I've read say it is the triglyceride # that is more telling overall health wise.
but many MDs still push the statins.. and only talk about the cholesterol #

Some of the more alternative /natural health sites dispute the actual risk of higher cholesterol #s

Read about it and be informed, not just info from MDs or the traditional pro Rx drug sites.
Just wanted to say there was just a research study that came out yesterday or at least was reported on the radio then. It stated that the concern over LDL for so many years is being reconsidered. Unfortunately, I can't tell you where to look for the research. I was in my car and heard it on the radio. Possibly put in new research on LDL's.

I also agree, I think the triglycerides should be looked at more carefully.
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I have not been using my statins but no my cholesterol is going up
what alternatives do you suggest then taking the drug?
Hi,
Are you taking Krill oil? If not consider starting.
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Google duke university statin study. I would post the link but I couldn't figure out how to do it from my phone.

I too heard it on the radio. I also heard a doc reply that a more Mediterranean type diet would net out the same results.
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Google duke university statin study.
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"We wanted to be really objective and just quantify what the guidelines do, and not get into a discussion about whether they are correct,"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/13-milli...ollowed-study/

Maybe (I hope) there's a different study, but this one from last November is all I see using that search phrase....

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I believe that the study referred to is the "fat vs. heart attack" study released this week:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/0...ype=blogs&_r=0

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similar:
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/heal...0VCL/blog.html

But then the data has been around a LONG time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SSCNaaDcE
The Swiss who consume high fat diets have the lowest heart disease rate of the countries tested.

And Dr. Stephanie Seneff, who I have quoted here before, is researching cholestrol and believes that it is vital for health in humans. She has numerous YouTubes also.

The death knells are ringing more loudly and more quickly for statins, than I predicted. Once Crestor goes generic we will see more negative studies on statins.

As it turns out --it was the trans fats all along causing heart disease, which was also not a secret, but it took decades to teach the public about THEM, and finally they are being removed from foods. Fast foods were filled with huge amounts of trans fats, and the fast food makers are still removing them.
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Whew, I tried goggle, goggle scholar, news filters, and playing with the search criteria/terms, and couldn't find it.

It's hard to find something when you don't know what you're looking for.

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The death knells are ringing more loudly and more quickly for statins, than I predicted. Once Crestor goes generic we will see more negative studies on statins.
I do hope you're right about that. Seeing all that ballyhoo over putting millions more on statins is disconcerting. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the end of SSRIs & SNRIs as well, but that's another ball-o-worms...


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