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Jon_sparky 04-08-2014 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lewie (Post 1061943)
I was just thinking this morning at 3:00am when I was awake that if only they made a time release melatonin.... Well apparently they do and I didn't know about it. I will definetly llok for it. The problem with melatonin for me is that it only lasts 4 hours and it loses its affect after abit. I will give it a try though. Thanks.

It is a prescription medication, and it can be filled at a compound pharmacy. The Meletonin is much better en the store bought stuff. I am using a 10mg sustained released capsule. I get it at the Medquest pharmacy mail order from Utah.

Lewie 04-08-2014 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon_sparky (Post 1062129)
It is a prescription medication, and it can be filled at a compound pharmacy. The Meletonin is much better en the store bought stuff. I am using a 10mg sustained released capsule. I get it at the Medquest pharmacy mail order from Utah.

Oh thanks- I am in utah. My wife found the 10 mg extended release melatonin over the counter yesterday. Took it last night and it wasn't far from a great night but I have had worse. I was up every hour but able to fall back to sleep. I will give it a few more tries but might have to try something else, maybe the tryptophan. Also noticed I was back on the edge of having tachycardia that hasn't shown itself since when I was taking melatonin on a regular basis. hmmmmm.

Jon_sparky 04-08-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lewie (Post 1062159)
Oh thanks- I am in utah. My wife found the 10 mg extended release melatonin over the counter yesterday. Took it last night and it wasn't far from a great night but I have had worse. I was up every hour but able to fall back to sleep. I will give it a few more tries but might have to try something else, maybe the tryptophan. Also noticed I was back on the edge of having tachycardia that hasn't shown itself since when I was taking melatonin on a regular basis. hmmmmm.

My rhuemi doc has me taking over the counter 50mg benadryl normally used for alergies, puts me right to sleep, I take it with the melatonin.

Dr. Smith 04-08-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hopeful (Post 1062081)
Hi Dr. Smith,

Did your wife try the tryptophan? If so how did it work for her?
Hopeful:)

Yes, and thanks for the thought. She started on a minimal dose (500 mg x 2/day) and it worked some. That's why I was doing the reading/research—to find out what the safe range was. She upped it to 1000 mg x 2/day this week and so far it's working much better. There's still a bit of wiggle room, but we're trying to keep it as low as possible.

I also learned it has some promise for pain—both acute & chronic.
L-Tryptophan
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Doc

Sitke 04-10-2014 01:54 PM

Not sure how old you are but a few years ago I was waking up every single night at around 2-3 AM then every hour after that, it was awful, I prayed for sleep! It also felt as though my body was "shaking" my nerves felt on edge, sometimes would have to jump out of bed.

Did some research and I am sure magnesium has helped me, I take the powdered form in the AM and again in the PM and started sleeping well again, might be worth you trying it.

Also taking epsom salt baths helps me.

Lewie 04-10-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sitke (Post 1062672)
Not sure how old you are but a few years ago I was waking up every single night at around 2-3 AM then every hour after that, it was awful, I prayed for sleep! It also felt as though my body was "shaking" my nerves felt on edge, sometimes would have to jump out of bed.

Did some research and I am sure magnesium has helped me, I take the powdered form in the AM and again in the PM and started sleeping well again, might be worth you trying it.

Also taking epsom salt baths helps me.

Exactly how I am feeling! I been taking magnesium for 6 months now, It was defineitly helping but started hurting me. I started getting alot of missed heart beats and tachycadria. I tapered back to a dose that doesn't do anything fo rmy nerves and now I am back to feeling pretty bad again. I was taking 4 of the mag 64 a day. Not sure on the mg in each, around 135mg I think. I am 36 going on 85 by the way. I will look into the powdered form. Never heard of that.

Also I didn't start getting the heart issues until I switched over to slo mag and now mag 64, could be something else in the supplement I suppose.

Lewie 04-11-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lewie (Post 1062700)
Exactly how I am feeling! I been taking magnesium for 6 months now, It was defineitly helping but started hurting me. I started getting alot of missed heart beats and tachycadria. I tapered back to a dose that doesn't do anything fo rmy nerves and now I am back to feeling pretty bad again. I was taking 4 of the mag 64 a day. Not sure on the mg in each, around 135mg I think. I am 36 going on 85 by the way. I will look into the powdered form. Never heard of that.

Also I didn't start getting the heart issues until I switched over to slo mag and now mag 64, could be something else in the supplement I suppose.

Tried the magnesium again last night. Made my heart race. Took 2 ma 64. Really hard to go to sleep with blood pressure 115/64 BPM 80.

Maybe related to why I wake up every day at 3 is that on the other end, at around 3-4pm every single day my heart skips a beat. WHY?

Jon_sparky 04-11-2014 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lewie (Post 1062904)
Tried the magnesium again last night. Made my heart race. Took 2 ma 64. Really hard to go to sleep with blood pressure 115/64 BPM 80.

Maybe related to why I wake up every day at 3 is that on the other end, at around 3-4pm every single day my heart skips a beat. WHY?

My heart beat and blood pressure increases in the evening around 6pm. I think it might have something to do with the cycle of Adrenaline during the day.

mrsD 04-12-2014 06:41 AM

Are you using the lotion form of Magnesium too, Lewie?

If so you really don't need so much oral. Most people do well one just 2 of the SlowMag (generic) daily not, 4.

When your blood pressure goes down, typically there can be a compensatory increase in heart rate. 80 is not so high... it is in the upper range of normal for many people.

hopeful 04-12-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lewie (Post 1062904)
Tried the magnesium again last night. Made my heart race. Took 2 ma 64. Really hard to go to sleep with blood pressure 115/64 BPM 80.

Maybe related to why I wake up every day at 3 is that on the other end, at around 3-4pm every single day my heart skips a beat. WHY?

Hi Lewie,
I'm not certain why you are concerned about you b/p and heart rate? A normal heart rate is 60-100. You are right in the middle. Your b/p is actually good.
Do you exercise? Your b/p is what most healthy people strive for. The normal rate use to be 120/80 ( that is still good) now doctors are shooting for 110/70.

Also, if it was to low for you it would have the opposite effect. It would make you feel sleepy.

How many skipped beats are you experiencing. You said your heart skips a beat.

Hopeful


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