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nilram 04-12-2014 04:18 PM

It's so awesome that you've provided this info, beatle! I tried cannabis several years ago and found it made me groggy, dizzy and didn't help my pain -- at the time, though, it was hard to get good information about high-CDB strains. Much easier to find a high-CDB strain now.

HOWEVER, after looking around, I've found that anyone in the US can get CDB derived from hemp. As you've said, CDB is not psychoactive. It also happens to be present in abundance in hemp. Although we can't grow hemp in the US, anyone here can buy hemp products, including hemp oil.

Here are some links I've found that will be of interest to those interested in CDB. My own path right now is to find a hemp-based product rather than spending the $200+ it takes for a medical marijuana card in my state.

http://www.projectcbd.org/

http://www.leafly.com/news/medical/h...-access-no-pro

beatle 04-15-2014 10:25 PM

It has been about week since my last post and CBD is working very well. I have found the right dose and I am on a regular schedule. It has completely removed my pain-related symptoms: tingling, stabbing, stinging, electric shocks, all of which were constant and antagonized (more like terrorized) me, they are all suppressed now, comfortably and consistently.

Also, just before I started the CBD I got a new compounding cream that might be helpful to some. It contains small amounts of Clonidine and tetracaine that really helped for the topical stinging. Topical Clonidine gel is now in Phase III clinical trials and positive results have been documented. It could still be more than a year before a product hits the market but compounding pharmacies already make creams with it so for anyone suffering, it might be an option to discuss with your care provider.

I still have PN but for the first time in two years, I feel that I have the pain under control with CBD and without the intolerable side effects of the numerous prescriptions I've tried. The bigger issue now is the numbness and I remain hopeful that with (not too much) time, the nerves will regenerate.

I will keep posting but wanted to report that I am very happy with the results so far.

mrsD 04-16-2014 05:08 AM

If and when the CBD become affordable and available (our state is medically legal only, and CBD is not really approved)....I might try it for pain. But so far my topical products do well for me at this point. I am not progressing, and that is good enough for me.

But it is great that you are enjoying your new treatments.
Our RSD forum members --some of them use clonidine in their transdermal creams as well.
I think it would be prudent to keep track of your blood pressure daily just in case.

Some interventions for PN and pain, seem to create tolerance. So once your initial honeymoon is over, I hope you continue as you are now, and are mostly painfree.

beatle 04-16-2014 12:51 PM

Thank you MrsD. I am all too familiar with the drug honeymoon which I went through with Klonopin. Time will tell with CBD, I would expect it will become legal though. It effectively treats pain and there are no psychoactive effects or side effects at all as far as I am aware. Then again, it is cheap to produce so there could be political suppression from the pharmaceutical industry and the government via lobbying. We all know how that works.

Through my own suffering with PN and learning how difficult it is to treat, my course of action has been to try everything possible within reason until I find what works for me. I think one of the biggest challenges for myself and many others with PN pain is that it frequently changes, waxes and wanes, comes and goes, whatever you want to call it, the symptoms are inconsistent and can really sneak up on us.

For now, I am enjoying this time off from Lyrica, however long it may last. Talk about psychoactive effects! I was on another planet with that drug, it caused blurry vision and made my eyeballs hurt, they literally ached! :eek: ...and yet, that was the best I could do.

beatle 04-16-2014 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Smith (Post 1062586)
If this happens, periodic breaks—medication vacations—should work well.

That is a good point and exactly what I plan to do if this occurs. I can always default to my stockpile of Lyrica and the side effects that come with it.

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Given your location, is this really an issue? I would think that if it proves a successful therapy for you, you might naturally move on to self-supplying (growing your own of an appropriate strain).

Doc
In my state, we can legally grow 6 plants however, separating the CBD compound from the THC would be the issue. I have done some local research and there are no trends currently towards CBD becoming rare but rather the opposite is occurring.

beatle 04-16-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nilram (Post 1063077)
It's so awesome that you've provided this info, beatle! I tried cannabis several years ago and found it made me groggy, dizzy and didn't help my pain -- at the time, though, it was hard to get good information about high-CDB strains. Much easier to find a high-CDB strain now.

HOWEVER, after looking around, I've found that anyone in the US can get CDB derived from hemp. As you've said, CDB is not psychoactive. It also happens to be present in abundance in hemp. Although we can't grow hemp in the US, anyone here can buy hemp products, including hemp oil.

Here are some links I've found that will be of interest to those interested in CDB. My own path right now is to find a hemp-based product rather than spending the $200+ it takes for a medical marijuana card in my state.

http://www.projectcbd.org/

http://www.leafly.com/news/medical/h...-access-no-pro

Thanks for posting the links Nilram. When MMJ became legal here, CBD products quickly failed to keep up with the demand as most were going to epileptic children in dire need coming in from other states (Dr. Sanjay Gupta covered this on the CNN documentary 'Weed') so it was only a matter of time until they became available to others.

If you decide to try a hemp based product, look for pure CBD so you can avoid the high that you would get from THC. And avoid smoking it. Smoke of any kind is horrible for the lungs. It is also important to remember that if you try anything that does contains THC, you would likely fail a drug test if that is of any concern to you. That's my advice. I'm not a doctor, just a PN sufferer, very sensitive to medications and desperate for relief.

Here is a YouTube video explaining CBD. Not a huge production budget but some good information direct from a MMJ doctor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31SrjjgPbhU

Nervous1 04-18-2014 11:06 AM

I found this youtube video that speaks about CBD and how scientists and growers can look for the plants that have the "gene" that produces high yield CBD content plants and breed higher content CBD plants.
So hopefully in the future will be additional supply and there will be more research done with higher potency CBD plants.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31SrjjgPbhU


Quote:

Originally Posted by beatle (Post 1063961)
That is a good point and exactly what I plan to do if this occurs. I can always default to my stockpile of Lyrica and the side effects that come with it.



In my state, we can legally grow 6 plants however, separating the CBD compound from the THC would be the issue. I have done some local research and there are no trends currently towards CBD becoming rare but rather the opposite is occurring.


Dr. Smith 04-18-2014 11:30 AM

Whoopi Goldberg debuts as marijuana columnist (Yahoo)
 
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Originally Posted by NewsBot (Post 1064399)
http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/2r...3.original.jpgOscar-winning actress, comedienne and talk-show host Whoopi Goldberg sang the praises of marijuana inhaled through a pocket vaporizer on Thursday as she made her debut as an online pot columnist. In fact, her name is Sippy." wrote Goldberg, 58, about her pocket vaporizer on "The Cannabist," a pot-friendly website run by the Denver Post newspaper in Colorado. The Rocky Mountain state was the second in the United States, after Washington in the Pacific Northwest, to legalize marijuana for recreational use. But in a country where, at the federal level, marijuana is classified as an illegal drug on a par with heroin, Goldberg said Sippy's compact proportions helps maintain discretion.

Read the full article...

(From Yahoo)

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The sale, possession and consumption of cannabis for medicinal purposes -- though not approved by the US Food and Drug Administration -- is legal in 21 states. Maryland on Monday was the latest to join the growing list.
Ibid.
N.B. Pocket vaporizers do afford convenience and portability, however they still pose secondhand smoke/vapor concerns and other risks.
Reports of e-cigarette injury jump amid rising popularity, U.S. data show

Also...
Marijuana Vending Machines May Make It a Snap to Get Mile High in Colorado

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The machine, which uses climate control technology to keep its products fresh, will sell marijuana edibles. That's right, folks, with the push of a button, pot brownies can be yours.

At least, they can if you have a medical marijuana card. Buyers will need a card as well as valid state-issued identification. To stop teenagers from jacking an older relative’s card and ID, the machine will use active biometrics.
Doc

beatle 04-21-2014 02:16 PM

Interesting MMJ article
 
I though this was interesting, especially: "Neurologists reported the highest number of patients asking if medical marijuana might help them (70%)."

http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides...ana-survey-web

(Sorry for the mobile link)

Yorkiemom 04-23-2014 05:39 PM

When is the next bus to Colorado?
 
I think I must have missed the posting that stated how you ingested it. I can't see it ever becoming legal in Texas, but then who knows.

I have Asthma, so could not smoke it, but I have a weakness for brownies and cookies... :)

Cathie
Yorkiemom


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