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Old 05-27-2007, 02:06 PM #11
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Today my foot feels absolutely fine!!! That's the left one (with the bottle falling on it) But before,,, the right one was burning for a bit. I feel better not wearing socks but I'm afraid to go barefoot around here. But they're okay. No big thing.

BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALL OF YOU OUT THERE IN NEUROPATHY LAND. The other day when I was making a wash, I accidentally ran over my left foot with the laundry basket. It's on wheels and I bumped the laundry basket, the wheels ran over my left foot and I winced. It hurt for approx 5 seconds. I did a "oh my god" moment and that was that.

Now fast forward to dropping the bottle ON THE SAME FOOT!!
Could I have originally injured the nerves when I did a wheelie over them, and then when the bottle dropped IT JUMPSTARTED THE NERVES?? I guess I'm just trying to learn more and more about exactly what is happening with my feet.s

Oh, there is a 75 year old man across the street who is diabetic. He looks 50. Looks healthy as a horse but he came down with neuropathy, the same time he was diagnosed diabetic. I said 'really??" He said "yeah, I didn't know I was diabetic so I went to the doctor and they did blood work and I'm diabetic. He has never been on any diabetic drugs. His sugar is never over 125 to 130. He does it with diet alone, and sometimes he goes off but he lost 35 lbs last year (he has since put it back) but when I see him, I shout across the street "what's the number this morning??" and he'll go 95 and I go 118, and we both laugh.

When he first got the neuropathy (in hands by the way, not his feet), his hands hurt and they burn. He went to another state for some kind of light therapy. He did this a few times but then he stopped because it stopped working.

Then 6 months ago, his legs gave way and they gave him all kinds of stress tests (his back was killing him). Well, his heart is just fine, the doctor told him "you have neuropathy in your lower back". (I have never heard of this).

So they doctor sent him to physical therapy and told him to walk. He doesn't walk. He looks perfectly fine but his hands and back always bother him and his hands always burn.

So this morning, I go across the street with my little bottle of Methocobalim B-12 and I start explaning to him (and to his son), all about the methyl. They are writing all the information down and his son will go online and buy it. I told them. "Listen, there is no guarantee, but if you want to try something, this is what you try" And they read the bottle. THEN THE GUY WITH THE NEUROPATHY SAYS TO ME "MELODY, I AM BODERLINE ANEMIC".

I asked him "Nick didn't your doctor ever tell you to take B-12 shots, or take B-12. and he said "No, he told me nothing". So I said: "Take the B-12 methyl, give it some time, you never know, might help"

So I'm sure, sometime today, someone at that house, went to iherb.com and ordered the methyl.

Am I nuts or shouldn't he (when he was told he was borderline anemic), well, shouldn't he have been told about the B-12 from his doctor???

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Old 05-28-2007, 06:32 AM #12
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Default He probably should have been--

--though it might depend on the type of anemia.

But, of course, we've all had doctors who don't have a clue about vitamin or mineral contributions to our conditions--or to helping them.

As far as your "jump start" theory--anything is possible. I suspect, though, that those of us with some nerve damage are simply more prone to compressive nerve effects than "normal" people. Our nerves may not be symptomatic all the time, but since they are comprimised in some way, any "torque" or "pressure" on them--mechanical, or from the swelling of a bruise, or whatever--can get them to express symptoms "sooner" (through the application of a smaller amount of pressure) than it would take for someone without such comprimise.

This is actually very common in diabetics, BTW--they are more prone to carpal and tarsal tunnel, and to meralgia parasthetica, compressive syndromes all, than are those in the "control population". Many of us with "idiopathic" syndromes report similar things. In fact,in my case it has been speculated that my compromise may be causing me to feel my right side cervical radicular symptoms with less pressure/less narrowing of the foraminal space than it would take for someone who has never had a nerve issue.

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I'm glad your foot is feeling better. The guy your talking about does he maybe not want to do pills because you said he controls his other issue just by diet? I do know on all the docs I have seen only 1 recomended the b complex. All have just focused on there pain meds or meds like neurontin. I think very little docs in general say the supplements. My friend who is a nurse said that the docs know more about the prescription med and also the companies really try to sell to them so they focus on what they know.
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I'm glad your foot is feeling better. The guy your talking about does he maybe not want to do pills because you said he controls his other issue just by diet? I do know on all the docs I have seen only 1 recomended the b complex. All have just focused on there pain meds or meds like neurontin. I think very little docs in general say the supplements. My friend who is a nurse said that the docs know more about the prescription med and also the companies really try to sell to them so they focus on what they know.
People would be amazed (and frightened) at how little doctors understand the
medications they prescribe! They APPEAR to know them, at least, they know the names. But doctors typically only know what drug salespeople tell them, and in these days, that means, only what the drug companies want them to know. And Big Pharma has a long track record in holding back negative data.

The movie Sicko is premiering this weekend... deals with this issue among others in health care, today.
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Default Oh No

My first thought was, "I hope the bottle didn't break and I hope it wasn't good Scotch or vintage wine". My second thought was, "Melody is drunk again."

My third thought was to actually read your posting.

I went through a long period of dropping things, about 2-4 years into having PN. It just cleared up. One thing that helped is that I made a special effort to slow down and be mindful of what I was doing.

Your experience reminds me of MrsD a few years ago dropping a large rock on her foot. It's weird how we can be numb and in extreme agony at the same time.

I'm glad you're OK.
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Default Wow...

Yes, David, it was about this time of year too.

It was a huge boulder I was putting back into our rock wall. It was balanced
on the edge of the wall driveway junction which has a 6in little curb, and I misjudged its' center of gravity, and it just rolled off.

It rolled off onto my foot and hit mostly the big toe. I had hard shoes on, luckily..old leather trainers I use in the garden.

I recall sitting there on that milk crate...and saying boy is this bad...and it took about 5 sec for the pain to reach my brain! Fortunately the foot itself was spared...I had two hairline fractures in the toe, and the podiatrist gave me a special shoe to wear. I used magnets and NSAIDs and ice for the pain, and the toe turned black underneath, but not on top (I guess the ice blocked that).
He told me the nail would probably be spared...but it fell off during our vacation.

The boulder was granite and about 15 in long and 12 inch high. My son was helping me since my hubby can't stand cement work...I always do that here.
So my son jumped quickly and grabbed the rock...and I was spared further damage.

Considering all the rock work we do here and on vacation, I guess I was lucky this was the first major accident with them! This was no where near the top of the foot where I get the shocking feelings when I tap those nerves. This was out and out agony.....
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I DO NOT DRINK!!!!!! lol

I wish I did. I never liked the taste of liquor in any form.
See how conservative I am?? Not even an occasional glass of wine.

I used to have a glass at thanksgiving but not even that anymore.

And now that I have neuropathy, well, not even a glass of wine.

The bottle I dropped was a Snapple bottle that I was transferring (among my plastics). I never have anything with glass in the house so I completely forgot that there was a bottle made out of glass in my bin. When I emptied the bin into the clear pastic bag, well, NATURALLY, MY FOOT WAS IN THE WAY.

But it's fine, so no problem there.

thank goodness.
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Default Melody, all I can ask is...

was it a big or little bottle? Not that one hurts more than the other...

I guess, pain nerves, not the nerves that are angry because of neuropathy, I believe there are different types of nerves that relay different issues/fuctions to various parts of the brain [they're still researching all this, of course, and don't seem to be much further along than there are 'different' nerves] Well, those pain nerves...the ones that GO WOW! I"VE JUST DROPPED A BOTTLE ON MY FOOT! Well, count your stars that they work?!!

I knew, really KNEW I had a problem, when I was using my cane to get out of my little compact..as I was propelling myself up-I happened to look down and that danged cane was in the middle of one of my feet! Didn't feel it! I am surprised that it didn't get broken and all that. Now, after IVIG and all, I really watch where I put my cane in relation to my where my feet are, and any pain I get [sometimes not fun] I am happy for. As long as I can feel and COMPLAIN about it -where else but here? I feel very fortunate!

Mrs D, the toes are no longer an issue or concern to me...it's the bigger bones like the metatarsals...now THOSE HURT and big time..As did the knee in 2 places last winter. They'd initially decided the knee was just a fracture/chip type thing of the knee cap, till it started to heal..then the tibia fracture showed up... A toe goes 'BOING' well, I Ice it and use the walker..wrap it to go out and then repeat of all preceding...

I guess what I'm trying to say is that WHEN YOU SEE STARS***** then you know you are in the Big Time?

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It was a regular bottle of Diet Snapple. Not the BIG ONE!!!

Thankfully, all is well.

I wish the neurologist would call us back.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW. Alan won't call!!

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