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Old 10-23-2014, 04:03 PM #21
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That is the cost....the tremendous amount of organic veggies. I do drink a lot of juice and eat a ton of raw organic veggies.
That's great, this should help. Sounds like you're doing better on this than me. I feel like I don't have time for anything--taking care of the property and helping to get my kids everywhere they need to be. I planted lots of vegetables this year but don't feel like I was eating them very much. Something is wrong here.
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That's great, this should help. Sounds like you're doing better on this than me. I feel like I don't have time for anything--taking care of the property and helping to get my kids everywhere they need to be. I planted lots of vegetables this year but don't feel like I was eating them very much. Something is wrong here.
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I have spent several hours this week watching Dr Bergman videos. He is really amazing so thanks for that. I am just wondering where to go with all of that information now.
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I have spent several hours this week watching Dr Bergman videos. He is really amazing so thanks for that. I am just wondering where to go with all of that information now.
Yes, Dr. John Bergman is amazing with his knowledge of the body, but I think he is a bit off-target about neuropathy. Here is the only video of his I found on neuropathy:

How to Decipher Neuropathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JAdAOfJYeM

He has a lot of good info, but doesn't mention genetics in any way. Now, I don't believe genetics necessarily govern our destiny, since generic expression can be controlled by many lifestyle factors, but it deserves mention. When you see neuropathy being inherited, there is very likely something going on there that is not environmental. I listened to this about three times, and and I didn't catch anything about diabetes or vitamin B-12 deficiency, two of the top causes of neuropathy, so something is amiss.

Here are some notes from the video:

He talks a bit about the cause of Parkinson's Disease and (indirectly) how he can reverse it at times.

He talks about several neurotoxins in our environment, including artificial sweeteners, aluminum hydroxide (in vaccines), flu shots, GMOs, MSG, fluoridated water, cholesterol-lowering drugs.

"Peripheral means away from the center. Neuropathy means nerve problem, that's all it means."

paraphrased: "Diagnoses are not diseases, they are descriptions of the body adapting to a deficiency or toxicity."

"Why is there an epidemic of neuropathies? It's from the vaccinations, the flu shots, the genetically modified foods, the medications, I mean literally not respecting the human body."

"If you have a neuropathy, should you be 100% organic and plant based? Yes or yes. Should you get off the cholesterol and the blood pressure, and the neurontin, and all the other medications that they pass out to deal with of the symptoms?"

"Prescription drugs, the right drug at the right time at the right dosage for the right diagnosis kills 106,000 people a year."

He is very anti-drug. I wonder if he would still be against our pain-relieving drugs if he were in constant pain.

"Nerves regenerate at about 1 mm per month."

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I don't believe this is the case, I believe it is more like 1 mm per day. Wikipedia states "Human axon growth rates can reach 2 mm/day in small nerves and 5 mm/day in large nerves." and references:

Recknor, J.B. and S.K. Mallapragada, Nerve Regeneration: Tissue Engineering Strategies, in The Biomedical Engineering Handbook: Tissue Engineering and Artificial Organs, J.D. Bronzino, Editor. 2006, Taylor & Francis: New York
"The constant stimulation of the body into the brain heals the nerve and can regenerate the tissue."

"Plants--I'm talking just asparagus, fruits, oranges, cantaloupes, fantastically good for the nervous system." He says this in relation to a Parkinson's study in Journal of Neurochemistry 2002;80:101-110, "Dietary folate deficiency and elevated homocysteine levels endanger dopaminergic neurons in models of Parkinson's disease", http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11796748

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Electron,

I appreciate your input on this topic as you seem knowledgeable and open minded. I also like what discussion has taken place and the struggle people are engaged in to over come their condition.

I tend to be optimistic about reversing most conditions that ail people as long as they are willing to make changes and they make them sooner rather than later.

In my case my conscious awareness of PN began in August of this year for no apparent reason at the age of 62 and has moved from my feet to my thighs. I had a complete physical with blood tests and everything came out fine. I am in otherwise good health, exercise and eat healthy in my opinion.

I followed with a CT scan of the lower spine with a neurologist and nerve conduction and electromyleogram. I showed basically no reading in nerve response yet I still have feeling in my legs and my reflexes are present.

One thing you said about eating an animal diet which I do almost 100% intrigued me. I have read extensively about the pros and cons and so far in my opinion it is a superior diet. Curious what doctors, researchers or studies have caused you to believe the way you do. I am not interested in proving one way or the other correct, just curious.

I have been reading many of the people you referenced that understand PN and plan on working with someone next year to put this in check if possible. I have no interest in living with this condition fro the remainder of my life and can only hope I don't have to.

I hope people will continue to post information and any progress or success they have in overcoming this strange condition.


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...One thing you said about eating an animal diet which I do almost 100% intrigued me. I have read extensively about the pros and cons and so far in my opinion it is a superior diet. Curious what doctors, researchers or studies have caused you to believe the way you do. I am not interested in proving one way or the other correct, just curious.
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Please see my post here: http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post1041258-10.html
And here: http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post1035130-34.html

These present my position on healing and list many of the authors who have influenced me.

I also like Dr. Michael Greger. He has all the evidence one could want. See here: http://nutritionfacts.org/topics/plant-based-diets/

"The convergence of evidence suggests that an affordable plant-based diet can help prevent and even reverse many of the top killers in the Western world..."

"This is in part because plant foods contain anti-aging, anti-cancer antioxidants (on average 64 times more than animal foods, see also here, here, here, here, here, here), fiber, and phytochemicals, which in some cases can even help repair DNA damage..."

"Eating meat and other animal products is associated with weight gain (even after controlling for calories), a shortened lifespan, and other negative effects (such as premature breast development of young girls). Arachidonic acid in chicken and eggs may cause inflammation, increasing one’s risk for a variety of disorders including mood disturbances thought due to inflammation of the brain. On the other hand, many plant foods (especially potassium-rich foods) appear to reduce inflammation..."

Also you can google "evidence for plant based diet". Here is one study near the top of the list:

Nutritional Update for Physicians: Plant-Based Diets
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662288/

Here is a major study, the Cornell-China-Oxford project, which was undertaken to explore the effects of diet on health in China: http://web.archive.org/web/200902232.../ChinaProject/

A quote from the Results page of that site:
"A variety of specific disease, nutrient and biomarker associations have been investigated. Virtually all support the idea that nutrients usually present in plant based foods minimize the occurrence of chronic degenerative diseases."

Probably the most influential health information that I have read is from the book The China Study that T. Colin Campbell wrote about this study (although the book is much more than just describing that one project). I highly encourage everyone to read it. I will try to come up with a list of some of the other major studies listed in the books that I have read.

Please let us know why you believe that eating an animal based diet is superior to a plant based one.

I hope we can all heal. Let's get to it. I have to drop the junk food.
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