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Old 11-15-2014, 10:58 PM #1
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Four months of tingling, burning, and some numbness.

I started with generic neurontin-up to 1800mg/day. Burning pains started.
Now with Lyrica 300mg day (150 in morning and 150 in evening). If I don't take it on time I can't sleep AT ALL or take a nap during the day as my body becomes an electrically charged body. It is like a continuous nightmare.

I am doing yoga a few times a week and walking in 85' water a few times a week. I soak in epsoms salts 5 times a week. The Morton lotion has not worked for me and I have tried it dozens of times. I have a loving and supportive husband and had a charmed life before.

Besides the Lyrica, I take daily:

Multivitamin
R Lipoic Acid 200mg
Vitamin D 5000 IU
Benfotiamine 300mg
NAC 1200mg
B12 10,000mcg
Magnesium glycinate powder 1000mg

I have gone gluten free, no sugar, lots of water. I meditate and have a couple of people that will listen about my pain, but dwindling due to lack of understanding and situation fatigue. I am trying to become perfectly healthy but the symptoms continue to progress with a few days here and there a little better but unable to make connection with my behavior. I did have excellent health prior to two surgeries, truncal pain, esophageal tear, and now the tingling, burning, and some numbness.

Any suggestions are kindly appreciated. I NEVER took routine medications before this. I would like to stop the anticonvulsant, but it does help some and allows for 4-6 hours of sleep versus no REM and being awakened over and over again.

Again, any suggestions, old wise ones...no expectations from my end.

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Can you explain exactly what your two surgeries were in that area? Did you have mesh implanted there?

Did you apply the mag lotion to the surgical areas?

How many endoscopies have you had in that upper GI area?

I'd also stop the NAC... it has potential for side effects.

If your problems are surgically induced, I don't see how you will
be able to correct that.

I think 5,000mcg of B12 is enough.

Have you been tested for hepatitis? Hep C?

dirty endoscopes:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/805801
you have to join to view this link....but it is free, and easy to do.

http://www.edwardsragatz.com/dirty-e...rbug-outbreak/

Use "dirty endoscopes" as a Google search.
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Can you explain exactly what your two surgeries were in that area?

Appendectomy and exploratory laproscopy 09/2013 Resulted in chronic truncal pain (band of pain including rib area). Several cysts on spine that have been told are incidental.

Removal of intrabdominal mass for possible pain relief (thought to be pancreatic, but attached to splenic vein) 06/30/2014 Splenic vein clotted, lost 2 pints of blood. Mass was thought to be possibly scar tissue.

Did you have mesh implanted there? NO

Did you apply the mag lotion to the surgical areas? Surgical areas did not hurt except first couple of weeks after and had the least problem from them. The Epsom salts bath help for a little while after.

How many endoscopies have you had in that upper GI area?

EGD 08/2013 Normal no problem-decided appendectomy due to fecalith and belly button pain. Appendix was inflamed and distended. Surgeon had to remove scar tissue for C-section 1999 to get to appendix.

EUS 05/02/2014 resulted in esophageal tear. Was given Livequan unknowingly for prophylaxis-apparently a standard of care?
Now have gurgling/frog sounding noises after lying flat for an hour.

Had another EGD/Ph study 08/07/2014 that revealed sliding hiatal hernia where tear was. Ph study revealed little to no reflux.

Pills get stuck at GE junction and have to drink lots of water-found this out with barium swallow study 09/2014


I'd also stop the NAC... it has potential for side effects. TY

If your problems are surgically induced, I don't see how you will
be able to correct that. TY I am not sure if they are, or immune system way down.

I think 5,000mcg of B12 is enough. TY, B12 after surgery was 423, checked after numbness/tingling at night to feet 07-17-2014, Electric buzzing, tingling numb from knees down and elbows down 08-07-2014 continues with burning now, vibrations, electric charges all over body: mostly arms, legs, trucal area, and back.

Have you been tested for hepatitis? All negative Hep C? Negative

dirty endoscopes:
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/805801
you have to join to view this link....but it is free, and easy to do.

http://www.edwardsragatz.com/dirty-e...rbug-outbreak/

Use "dirty endoscopes" as a Google search.
Yes, these articles were very helpful.

Both antibiotic and last endoscopy were 10 weeks away from first symptoms.

Noteworthy: excellent health. 1st surgery slow truncal pain, but chronic developed. 2nd surgery neuropathy pain developed after 3 weeks.

Thank you for all your kindness and help. I have been very aggressive with this due to pain, possible pancreatic mass, and then more pain.

I have more problems now, and still with the chronic pain I started with. Since no one can find a cause, my husband said that I should have never gone to the doctors to begin with.
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So the surgery was done by endoscopy only? Down your throat only?

Not laparoscopically?

Are you calling endoscopy a "surgery"? Was there cutting done or
removal of tissue for examination (biopsy)?

Pancreatic pain can refer to the back. If you have some issue with the pancreas, then the pain location you have could be connected to it.

If you have problems due to pathology of tissue, or damage from the scopes, I doubt that most of the supplements will help.

Tissue damage (trauma or surgery) responds for healing to zinc, Omega-3 fatty acids, B12, folate, magnesium, and protein. These are typically given to repair damaged tissue.

If your antibiotic was Levaquin, then that too could damage nerve tissue. Dr. Cohen suggests magnesium for that.

There seems to be a strong connection to the timing with your procedures. Doctors will not admit to damaging you.
What is your status now with the esophagus? Do you have trouble swallowing, pain and heart burn or whatever there?
When you were released from the surgeon what did he say about your outcome and results?
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So the surgery was done by endoscopy only? Down your throat only? The last surgery removal of mass was done by incision. It was not down the throat, as it was intra-abdominal (behind stomach, front of pancreas)

Not laparoscopically? Yes, regular way.

Are you calling endoscopy a "surgery"? No I am not. Was there cutting done or removal of tissue for examination (biopsy)? For intra-abdominal mass, yes there was removal and I lost two pints of blood. The mass was connected to the splenic vein.

Pancreatic pain can refer to the back. If you have some issue with the pancreas, then the pain location you have could be connected to it. Yes, some thought so that is why the open procedure surgery. The CTs (5) showed a pancreatic mass, peripancreatic mass, etc.

If you have problems due to pathology of tissue (benign)

or damage from the scopes, I doubt that most of the supplements will help. TY.

Tissue damage (trauma or surgery) responds for healing to zinc, Omega-3 fatty acids, B12, folate, magnesium, and protein. These are typically given to repair damaged tissue. TY

If your antibiotic was Levaquin, then that too could damage nerve tissue. Dr. Cohen suggests magnesium for that. TY.

There seems to be a strong connection to the timing with your procedures. Doctors will not admit to damaging you. Yes my lady.

What is your status now with the esophagus? Weird gurlgling that sounds like air coming out of throat after lying down at night. Happens even when or when not swallowing now.

Do you have trouble swallowing, pain and heart burn or whatever there? No real heart burn. Swallow much better (was in hospital for 5 days after EUS due to tear that they did not believe me from) That is a 30 minute story alone. Swallow is not the same. Food feels stuck all the time. Now have a sliding hiatal hernia at same location as tear. Did not have previous. That is another 30 minute story. Two barium swallows that are normal. I could go on and on.

When you were released from the surgeon what did he say about your outcome and results?
Was hoping that the mass removal would get rid of truncal pain. DID NOT. When I went back after the staple removal, and told him about the continued pain, he did not want to see me again and said that he could do nothing about my pain.

Suffice it to say if I told my entire year story, it sounds like I am mentally ill and a hypochondriac, even though I am NOT. I have been blamed for a lot and have been treated worse since I have a knowledge base.

I have been labelled as anxiety ridden over and over again.

Even to me, my story sounds unbelievable. Our medical system is broken and even when there is a direct connection with a procedure (example: esophageal tear after an EUS), not even the doctor who did it will own it.


Again, for a summary, I did not take any routine medicines before last year, worked, took care of my family and helped my mother. Was very, very healthy and rarely went to the doctor-tried to avoid them.

Strong pain will push folks, and pancreatic masses are scary.

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Well, that is alot to have to endure.

We had a poster here
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post1059909-4.html

Who was finally found to have a pinched celiac artery. His symptoms were more or less constant and confusing too.

You can read his posts starting from the beginning --
This is his profile:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/member.php?u=62057

I am not saying this is what you have, but surgery in this area or an injury can lead to all sorts of grief. (and be difficult to diagnose).

From your title here in the first post of this thread...Is this pain worse only at night?

When you have major incisions thru the abdominal wall, there is a possibility of damage to the fascia that holds all the organs in.
This ligamentous fascia has nerve endings so perhaps Lidoderm patches might work for you? And also the magnesium lotion applied around your scar may block the pain receptors, and relax any tightness from the scarring.
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Well, that is alot to have to endure.

Thank you for your kind words.

We had a poster here
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/post1059909-4.html

Who was finally found to have a pinched celiac artery. His symptoms were more or less constant and confusing too.

You can read his posts starting from the beginning --
This is his profile:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/member.php?u=62057

I am not saying this is what you have, but surgery in this area or an injury can lead to all sorts of grief. (and be difficult to diagnose). TY

From your title here in the first post of this thread...Is this pain worse only at night? Yes, it is definitely worse at rest or when I lie down. The burning is usually allodynia when I sit or lie. I also have burning in my hands, arms, legs and feet.

When you have major incisions thru the abdominal wall, there is a possibility of damage to the fascia that holds all the organs in.
This ligamentous fascia has nerve endings so perhaps Lidoderm patches might work for you? They work for my truncal pain. The incision rarely burns.

And also the magnesium lotion applied around your scar may block the pain receptors, and relax any tightness from the scarring.
TY I appreciate everything.
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