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Old 02-18-2015, 11:36 AM #21
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I will have to look this drug up Gerry as it may not be available in Scotland or be under another trade name.



(There is a generic available which is Zolpidem 10mg and 12.5mg.)

The most important thing to do when taking this type of sleep med is to go to bed within 10-15 min. after taking them; especially when newly started. Some will get sleepy very quickly and that could cause unbalance. As I mentioned previously; never was a very good sleeper; years of being sleep deprived.

When the PN/spine issues became too painful to even lay on the bed at night; I gave in to the Ambien/ then later Ambien CR. I am amazed at the ability to go into well needed sleep enabling me to better face another 24/7 day of pain.

I know this is not for everyone; but for me it is a godsend.


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Thanks Gerry. I have a similar sounding drug on prescription called Zopiclone. My GP prescribes it for infrequent use as it apparently addictive. I feel the same way about it as you feel about your drug Ambien. It enables me to sleep through the night as nothing else ever does. I take one or two a week as my special treat! Mat
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Thanks Gerry. I have a similar sounding drug on prescription called Zopiclone. My GP prescribes it for infrequent use as it apparently addictive. I feel the same way about it as you feel about your drug Ambien. It enables me to sleep through the night as nothing else ever does. I take one or two a week as my special treat! Mat

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I had asked the pharmacist about this med being addictive . Asked him what would be the consequence of my stoping the Ambien? He said it's only addictive as being addictive to sleep. The downside; you won't get the sleep you were getting from using it.

Mat; sleep is a "special treat" for many of us that find sleeping otherwise difficult.


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I also have a script for zolpidem (generic Ambien), and likewise my GP will only prescribe it sparingly for infrequent use. (I get fourteen 5 mg caplets at a time with one refill.) It's a godsend on those nights when I can't get to sleep and I have to get up in the morning.

Two years ago the FDA lowered the recommended dosage because of residual morning affects of the the higher dosages. I nearly died when I saw this because 2.5 mg is enough to knock me out, and I'm not small at all.

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm334798.htm

The FDA has informed the manufacturers that the recommended dosage of zolpidem for women should be lowered from 10 milligrams (mg) to 5 mg for immediate-release products (Ambien, Edluar, and Zolpimist) and from 12.5 mg to 6.25 mg for extended-release products (Ambien CR). For men, the FDA has informed the manufacturers that the labeling should recommend that health care professionals consider prescribing these lower doses (5 mg for immediate-release products and 6.25 mg for extended-release products).
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I also have a script for zolpidem (generic Ambien), and likewise my GP will only prescribe it sparingly for infrequent use. (I get fourteen 5 mg caplets at a time with one refill.) It's a godsend on those nights when I can't get to sleep and I have to get up in the morning.

Two years ago the FDA lowered the recommended dosage because of residual morning affects of the the higher dosages. I nearly died when I saw this because 2.5 mg is enough to knock me out, and I'm not small at all.

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm334798.htm

The FDA has informed the manufacturers that the recommended dosage of zolpidem for women should be lowered from 10 milligrams (mg) to 5 mg for immediate-release products (Ambien, Edluar, and Zolpimist) and from 12.5 mg to 6.25 mg for extended-release products (Ambien CR). For men, the FDA has informed the manufacturers that the labeling should recommend that health care professionals consider prescribing these lower doses (5 mg for immediate-release products and 6.25 mg for extended-release products).

I agree; there is a big difference. The 10mg does not last long enough. The extra 2.5 comes in a little later (time release) which helps continue the effect.

I had to get a Prior Authorization from my doctor for insurance; but also the amount they are about allowed and dosage because of the FDA requirements. I had previously been able to get 90 (3 month dose). Now I can get only 30 at a time each month can no longer get a 3 month supply.

It's so nice to know the FDA knows what we need. Except when we really need them to weed out .


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I don't think the Morton lotion is available in Scotland.

Epsom salt soaks are your next best bet. The magnesium blocks the firing of the NMDA pain receptors, so it offers some relief used topically. See what you can find topically where you live or can order online in the way of magnesium creams or lotions. Sometimes they call topical "magnesium oil" but it is not really an oil, but just a very saturated liquid form.

One other name is Epsom-IT, and also Kirkman's magnesium cream.

It really works... many of us use it for pain, cramping etc.
I'm excited because I'm away from home just now and found a health store where I was able to get Biofreeze and magnesium oil so I'm going to be experimenting tonight - coming off Cymbalta slowly now so the timing is hopefully very good. This support group is wonderful!!
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Is this just because we aren't engaging our brains and bodies as much as we do in the day? If so this seems strange to me because I suffer from fatigue and when I have a lot of bed rest during the day it doesn't affect me nearly as badly as it does in the night. In the day time I get cold wet legs and squelchy feet sensations whereas in the night it's all grip and burn, burn, burn
Maybe try Epsom salt baths. A women saved my life by telling me about these. I use half a tall box of epsom salts in about 6 inches of very warm water and soak in it for 1 hour It takes 45 minutes for the magnesium to get back onto the pain nerves. When the pain nerves fire the magnesium gets knocked off the nerve. When the magnesium gets back on the nerve it stops firing signals.
Works better than any medicine has. It saved my life.
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Maybe try Epsom salt baths. A women saved my life by telling me about these. I use half a tall box of epsom salts in about 6 inches of very warm water and soak in it for 1 hour It takes 45 minutes for the magnesium to get back onto the pain nerves. When the pain nerves fire the magnesium gets knocked off the nerve. When the magnesium gets back on the nerve it stops firing signals.
Works better than any medicine has. It saved my life.
Thanks - I keep forgetting to try the Epsom salts but I am now spraying myself with magnesium oil after my bath or shower. Not sure whether it is helping much or not because I'm weaning off Cymbalta just now and the pain and headaches and nausea are absolutely horrible. I will never try one of this type of drugs again. Epsom salts here I come!
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Be sure to read on the box as to how much to use and how much water. It doesn't take long for your body to absorb it.
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There is a priority regarding nerve fibers. The proprioceptive fibers in the tendons and muscles are myelinated and very fast,
and have 1st priority in getting to the brain. (the brain needs to know where the feet are at all times, etc).

Then come the other fibers. These are slower ...so when your feet are still they start to send their messages.

Here is a link explaining the 4 types:

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/cv.html

At one time I found some other explanations about efferent fibers. The cold sensing ones mask the heat ones, and that is why many remedies have menthol/camphor in them, to stimulate these to block the burning sensations. Biofreeze is one of those topical things that work well, for excessive burning.



Mrs D, in a few sentences you have logically answered the question that I have puzzled over for years!

Thank you!

My small-fiber neuropathy is typically in my palms, and I will unfortunately feel tingling and sometimes burning as one of my first sensations in the morning as I awake.

However, within a few seconds of my getting out of bed the pain seems to literally fade away. I will also notice the pain during the day when I try to take a nap, so again this makes perfect sense!

You are such a wonderful resource!

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one of those nonsleep nights and the special treat comment really resonates right now. I took melatonin, though I have found the quality of sleep higher (the 2-4 broken I get) the quantity and duration are lousy.
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