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Ok so Valentine's Day 2-14 of this year (2015) I started getting tingling in my feet. Today it's 3-17-15 and I've got tingling in my feet, legs and arms.

Blood test at this point is normal and waiting for an EMG to be done next week.

Does this neuropathy progress quickly?

FYI here are my labs. The elevated B6 is from a recent "Energy" Centrum.

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First post but here it goes.

34 year old male otherwise healthy with some underlying anxiety issues over the years. 2-14-15 my feet start tingling. Within a couple days it's shooting pain in my legs and in my arm. Blood tests don't show anything going in regards to inflammation or diabetes.

Throughout this sudden onset of neuropathy I'm still able to run 4 miles a day and function so it's sensory at this point.

I have an EMG next week.

Can neuropathy go from tingling left foot to all over in a month?

This ain't no joke. I've never had anything like this before.
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YES, neuropathy can certainly come on suddenly and spread to full body in a short period of time. It's this rapid onset that usually points doctors in particular directions. Diabetes is usually a slow onset, so not surprised this has been ruled out. The two things that come to mind with rapid onset is toxic neuropathy (many antibiotics can cause this) and autoimmune process. Of course, trauma would cause rapid onset, but you don't mention any injuries.

Have you taken any antibiotics lately? If so, which ones? Have you taken anything else new (Rx or otherwise)?

Do you have any other symptoms that may be autoimmune in nature? These would include, rashes (on the face or elsewhere), profound fatigue, weakness, joint pain, dry mouth/eyes, GI problems. Any symptoms that are out of the ordinary for you (sometimes it's little things like this that help provide answers)?

The EMG is an appropriate next step. But more labs for autoimmune disorders would be a good idea.
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YES, neuropathy can certainly come on suddenly and spread to full body in a short period of time. It's this rapid onset that usually points doctors in particular directions. Diabetes is usually a slow onset, so not surprised this has been ruled out. The two things that come to mind with rapid onset is toxic neuropathy (many antibiotics can cause this) and autoimmune process. Of course, trauma would cause rapid onset, but you don't mention any injuries.



Have you taken any antibiotics lately? If so, which ones? Have you taken anything else new (Rx or otherwise)?



Do you have any other symptoms that may be autoimmune in nature? These would include, rashes (on the face or elsewhere), profound fatigue, weakness, joint pain, dry mouth/eyes, GI problems. Any symptoms that are out of the ordinary for you (sometimes it's little things like this that help provide answers)?



The EMG is an appropriate next step. But more labs for autoimmune disorders would be a good idea.

No injuries and nothing out of the ordinary. I don't believe my lab points to any autoimmune stuff but maybe more labs need to be taken?

One thing I should note I still run 4 miles a day with this so it must be sensory at this point. Hope it's something temporary.
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No injuries and nothing out of the ordinary. I don't believe my lab points to any autoimmune stuff but maybe more labs need to be taken?

One thing I should note I still run 4 miles a day with this so it must be sensory at this point. Hope it's something temporary.
I think the "neuropathy " could be from you running 4miles a day, typically people should rest between runs, a few days in between, to give your body time to recover from the run. Running everyday(at that amount) can cause damage to your body. Exercising everyday(like doing crosffit) all the time damages your skeletal, and musculature of your body. No doubt it has an effect on your nerves. To gain benfit from an exercise or run, you should have a few days of recuperation, running everday can negatively affect your ability to exercise in the future. Ive seen an episode that a mother(i think) who was addicted to exercising at least 6 or more hours on the treadmill, she was skinny, with only skin and bones, eventhough she exercise. exercising causes "micro trauma to your skin" and it builds up and you become more efficient at using the muscle. eventually running everyday requires so much energy, and repairing, your muscle or other parts of your body has to shut down to keep up with the demands.
You should also look into autoimmune causes as well, is there a history of autoimmune disorders, vitamin deficiencies(are common amongst people who workout or exercise alot). Try suggesting blood test for those. You should also try to get some sort of scan done, like MRI,CAT, or ct scan to check for structural abnormalities, if its possible. Just lay off the exercise as well.
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Oh and I haven't taken any antibiotics
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Caffeine and stress does make it worse.
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I'd start by changing your Centrum to Centrum Silver.

Centrum has iron in it... the Silver form does not. Iron for males is not recommended in supplement form unless your doctor tells you to use it.

Did you have CBC run? was your iron high? Was your ferritin high? If so, you could have a genetic disorder that may be overlooked by doctors, called hemochromatosis...this leads to PN symptoms. It is serious. It is often only found when extreme damage starts in the liver and other organs. Some people develop bronzing of the skin(looks like a tan), but that may come later in the disorder.

Change that Centrum or take a men's formula vitamin instead.
It may be worth your while to use a good magnesium supplement like SlowMag... or a chelate of your choice. Just avoid OXIDE form. Choose foods high in magnesium to support your exercise routines. I'd cut back for a while and see if you observe any changes in symptoms.
Information on diet and SlowMag here:
http://www.slowmag.com/
one tablet twice a day is enough for most people.

Some people develop tingling and other PN type symptoms when their blood sugars get LOW.... this is a starvation thing...as the nerves react when they don't get enough nutrients and glucose. Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor and as such also impacts circulation which shows up first in feet and hands.
Get shoes with a wide toe box, and don't lace them too tightly to reduce compression there.

Sometimes just making some lifestyle changes, will help. Start slow and sometimes that is all you need.
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How high is the b6 in that multivatamine your taking?

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