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Old 05-20-2015, 07:43 PM #1
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Default Fasticulations, shingles edition?

I had a regular wave of fasticulations on my right ribs near where I had the shingles earlier this year. It was worse as it wore on under the shoulder blade.

No pain, no pulling like the outbreak. But until I put the lidoderm patch on and it has settled.

Any ideas as to a potential relation?
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I had a regular wave of fasticulations on my right ribs near where I had the shingles earlier this year. It was worse as it wore on under the shoulder blade.

No pain, no pulling like the outbreak. But until I put the lidoderm patch on and it has settled.

Any ideas as to a potential relation?
Shingles uncommonly affect the neuromuscular nerves(weakness,parylysis), but it does happen. Is twitching the only aftermath?
When i had shingles, it was about 10 lesions that were originally more but fused into 10 vesicles right under my left rib, since the shingles virus affect the whole nerve, from the dorsal root ganglion, i had pain on that side of the body. plus a week of meningitis(only my whole spine). the complication, was random jabs of pain, and numbness in the area in the lesions, only when i press hard i feel the dull pain. Starting from the area around the lesions it became very hypersensitive to touch.
When anything touched that area, dermatome where the lesion was, my left abdominal muscle would spasm like crazy, i tried this on my right side, no sensitivity and no spasming.

Your shingles most like cause twitching, usually shingles leave much more like: numbness, hypersensitivity, pain.
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None of the pain I had during the outbreak, which is the most intense pain I've ever envountered. It is exactly the region where my shingles were worst, though.

I'm going to stick with lidoderm for now, see where that gets me.
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I really suggest 2 grams of lysine a day.... this really helps me with my old shingles rubbish! I just got over a painful attack in fact.
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None of the pain I had during the outbreak, which is the most intense pain I've ever envountered. It is exactly the region where my shingles were worst, though.

I'm going to stick with lidoderm for now, see where that gets me.
I know people got postherpetic neuralgia from these, and that is pretty much painful, though only in severe shingles. I dint seek medication until a week after my first lesions appeared, by then it already did so much damage to that particular nerve, its now permanently numb at lesions site, and hypersensitive all around.
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@ neuroproblem.....There is no way to know for SURE you had shingles at all..

Many eruptions can look like shingles but are not.

Waiting a whole week just clouds the issue. Without a blood panel of antibody titres for herpes (simplex and zoster), you will never know for sure.

Here is a thread illustrating that a diagnosis may be quite speculative:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread220230.html
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@ neuroproblem.....There is no way to know for SURE you had shingles at all..

Many eruptions can look like shingles but are not.

Waiting a whole week just clouds the issue. Without a blood panel of antibody titres for herpes (simplex and zoster), you will never know for sure.

Here is a thread illustrating that a diagnosis may be quite speculative:
http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/thread220230.html
IM pretty sure the lesions i had were shingles, they match the pictures online exactly, and my kaiser pcp when i was 20, positively identified it as shingles just by examining the lesions, herpes zoster, prescribe me with acyclovir. by the time i reached the doctor, some of them already bursted and already oozing out orange fluid, and there was blood leftover in the craters.

I had itching, numbness, intense jabs of pain, around the blisters, the vesicles are exactly like herpes. I had active lesions when it was diagnosed. I also had aseptic meningitis at that time. i was left with permanent scarring, itching, hypersensitivity and random minor pains(nowhere near as much as when i had it., the blisters were in a belt like fashion. The lesions are related to the dermatome its affecting, and dorsal root ganglia it reactivated in. I do have pictures of my scars.

My presentation was, on first days before symptoms appear i notice when after i was showering i notice these odd red bumps on the left side of my torso right under the left rib cage, i though they were pimples, red inflmaed bumps. Then few days later the blisters appeared, and at the same time my meningitis also was coming on.
2nd day was when my back and neck were so stiff i could barely turn my head or my body, i had also had lower back pain where the shingles affected nerve was. The blisters were filling with fluid.
the next few days the blisters merged into 10 current lesions, and started to become cloudy, and bubbly, like bubble wrap. Then it fills with blood, and then the end of that whole week it bursted, and left a raw crater.
herpes zoster and shingles look nothing alike.
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The appearance of shingles varies considerably... One can see this by doing a simple search of Google images.

Without antibody tests (titres) or a dermatological biopsy,
shingles can be an opinion only.

Herpes Zoster is shingles. (and chickenpox).
the lesions are similar but the distribution is different.
Chickenpox is the initial infection and may cover large areas.
Shingles is more localized, as it is only a flare.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_zoster

Now poison ivy can cause blistering with fluid etc.... and
may be confused with shingles:
https://www.google.com/search?q=pois...ed=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

My husband tends to get large blisters filled with fluid from poison ivy. But not all people do.
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