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Old 06-14-2015, 11:45 PM #1
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Ok, I went to the store and stocked up on supplements. Is it safe to take all these? If so, Should I be spacing them out? Any tips on whether certain things should be taken with food or on an Empty stomach ? I know the flax oil and cottage cheese should be on an empty stomach.

Here is what I currently take

Slow mag
Vitamin d
Vitamin c
Omega 3 fish oil
R lipoic acid
Gabapentin

I bought
Inositol
Curcumin-95
Benfothiamine
Maca
Hemp oil
Flax oil + cottage cheese as a carrier
Grape seed extract capsules
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If you are taking fish oil and flax oil...you don't need the hemp oil. (unless it is the CBD oil which is a special form of hemp oil.)
Traditional hemp oil just is a provider of Omega-3's.

I'd forget about the Maca. It is a complex herb that affects sexual hormones. I'd stay away from most herbs in fact.

While Curcumin-95 looks good on paper, it is not optimized, and therefore will be limited in absorption.
A better choice is CurcuBrain by NOW which has the LongVida product in it, designed for absorption into the blood. This is one form used in the medical studies because of this fact.
Regular Curcumin that does not say "optimized" or nano technology on the label, will mostly remain in the GI tract.
And some people may get upsets because of this.
You can try using the Jarrow product, but when you replace it get the better form.

I don't see any problems with your list, unless you are taking other drugs you are not telling us about. Since you are under a doctor's care, I assume you have adequate kidney functions?
Make sure you are properly hydrated during the day too.

Because of your twitching, make sure your diet has good sources of potassium.
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Mrs d, should i take a potassium supplement? My potassium has been tested 7 times this year and appatently it's perfect everytime. I'm assuming my doc has checked kidney function but I will check with him
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It is better to get potassium from food. This is because the potassium is bound up in the food, and released slowly thru the GI tract, thus avoiding elevated levels.

Supplements are fast dissolving and dump the potassium all at once.

Patients given potassium in supplement forms in the hospital or long term care, often go too high and then need a binding resin to remove it. Using supplements therefore is rather tricky, even for doctors. So try to get your potassium from food, as nature intends.

Also check your food and avoid MSG (monosodium glutamate)... this will set off your NMDA pain receptors and make for major discomfort. This is a very common food additive, and in most soups, sauces and restaurant items. All the flavored chips and snacks are filled with high levels of MSG. It has alternate names too, to fool you. This chemical floods receptors too. (foods with natural glutamate (example parmesan cheese) in them, are slowly absorbed.)
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Hi Canagirl, whenever I’m adding more than one new supplement to my regimen, I take only one at a time for a couple of weeks so it’s easier to determine how effective it may or may not be. If you take all of your new supplements together and experience side effects, it will be more difficult for you to figure out the source.

One other point on taking benfotiamine for nerve pain. I take it and it has helped me with tingling and pain, but only at higher dosages. You may want to start at a low dose and work your way up until you reach a level where you notice a difference.
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There are thousands of papers on PubMed now... all about many aspects of improvements concerning inflammation using Curcumin.

I find the ones about lowering inflammation in the blood vessels most interesting.
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Hi Canagirl, whenever I’m adding more than one new supplement to my regimen, I take only one at a time for a couple of weeks so it’s easier to determine how effective it may or may not be. If you take all of your new supplements together and experience side effects, it will be more difficult for you to figure out the source.

One other point on taking benfotiamine for nerve pain. I take it and it has helped me with tingling and pain, but only at higher dosages. You may want to start at a low dose and work your way up until you reach a level where you notice a difference.
I will start each separately. If I don't have side effects I'll add another one. Thanks
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MrsD,

I checked pubmed and yes indeed ther are allot of articles about curcumin.
Why not "Vitacost Turmeric Extract Curcumin C3 Complex® with Bioperine® Description instead of curcubrain or is it same thing.?
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There are so many forms of curcmin it seems...right now I'm using Turmeric Phytosome with Meriva and get it at swansons...just ordered a new bottle. 500mg once a day with food/water. I take this herb, how much it helps I don't know, but have to think it helps, my energy work says it is good for me. I also add turmeric powder to my soups, open caps and add to soups.

I had a stomach ulcer years ago from pharma drug, so have had a weakness there over the years, so protect stomach lining with DGL which I would not be without...

BTW: My first grape seed ex cap which is 200mg, I take with my few supps on nightstand before I get my day going..that's about 8:30 or so. When I started on Pyc back almost 20 yrs ago, we were told to take it on empty stomach...now I see take it on empty stomach, take with food/water....I've never had stomach problems with my antioxidants.
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I checked pubmed and yes indeed ther are allot of articles about curcumin.
Why not "Vitacost Turmeric Extract Curcumin C3 Complex® with Bioperine® Description instead of curcubrain or is it same thing.?
Bioperine is a pepper extract thought to increase absorption of hard to dissolve products. For a while it was the only enhancing item out there.

But once the nano technology discovered that many nutrients can be highly enhanced by altering particle size, bioperine has fallen by the wayside. Curcumin is not very soluble so the new technology opened up a whole new activity realm with it that was previously difficult to prove. In the past Curcumin was thought to help brain functions since people in India eat alot of this spice and have a low incidence of Parkinson's. But one has to eat ALOT of curcumin and alot of fat with it to get the smallest effects.

So the studies developed the new optimized forms. LongVida is just one of those. They explain the process on their website.
http://longvida.com/

The Longvida product was so expensive though. Now it is licensed out to many quality OTC makers, and affordable. I've been using it one a day and like the improvements in my arthritis alone. My left ankle and foot which tends to swell and hurt due to an old surgical procedure that was pretty destructive, has gone down quite a bit in a very short time.
I just ordered my second bottle from Amazon.

Some supplements have gone thru various incarnations. CoQ-10 is one. It has moved from an insoluble powder capsule, to capsules with oils added to increase solubility, to where we are now with Qunol and Q-Gel...which increase solubility in water up to 300% and are affordable. So purchasing any of the older types, is really a waste, with Qunol available now.

Look up liposomal on Google. There are sites explaining how you can make your own liposomes for various vitamins, like Vit C.
https://www.quantumbalancing.com/liposomalC.htm
There are YouTubes and everything for this do it yourself project. Liposomes are where it is at now for some vitamins and hard to solubilize supplements.
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