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madisongrrl 09-05-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuroproblem (Post 1168753)
I think the Non-insure doctor has to agree to take insurance, so its pretty much on his part, since he doesnt take insurance he can charge you whatever amounts he claims.

An ordinary primary care doctor who takes insurance would never order that Spectracell test. And if you are lucky, you would get 10 to 15 minutes with that doctor, maximum. That is the current medical model and it is unfortunate for people like us who end up with chronic pain and disability.

Doctors utilize tools for clinical practice and run everything through the filter of health outcome studies. Health outcome studies are generally measuring morbidity, mortality, and cost of care.

For instance, if you ask for vitamin test, the answer will likely be no. Why? Because in their clinical algorithm, running the vitamin test will not change your health/disease status nor will it lengthen your life; so it is not worth the cost to the medical establishment for running the test.

This is exactly what happened to me when I asked my new Primary for a Vitamin D test. Mine had tested low (in the 20's) two years prior....and I was very lucky to get that test in the first place. My new Primary's answer was "No. Studies shown that testing Vit. D levels won't change health outcomes".

This is extremely frustrating, especially when you are trying to figure out a complex medical or chronic pain problem. However, this is the system that is in place. This is why people go "off the grid" and seek out alternative solutions.

glenntaj 09-06-2015 07:06 AM

By the way--
 
--if one is supplementing with both calcium and magnesium, it's a good idea to take them at different times of day. From a chemical standpoint, both calcium and magnesium are earth metals and though they are taken in compound form they can compete chemically at destination sites in the body if taken at the same time.

Not that this generally causes any bad symptoms or anything, but one may not get the biggest "bang for the buck" out of one's supplement dosage in that scenario.

pinkynose 09-06-2015 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by glenntaj (Post 1169041)
--if one is supplementing with both calcium and magnesium, it's a good idea to take them at different times of day. From a chemical standpoint, both calcium and magnesium are earth metals and though they are taken in compound form they can compete chemically at destination sites in the body if taken at the same time.

Not that this generally causes any bad symptoms or anything, but one may not get the biggest "bang for the buck" out of one's supplement dosage in that scenario.

I did not know that! Thank you for sharing.


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