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icelander 09-09-2015 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dancinglady (Post 1169949)
What is menthol? Is there a name brand?

Menthol is the active ingredient in Biofreeze and other over the counter topical creams for muscle aches and pains. I like a product called Relief from Corganics. It has less menthol than Biofreeze. I often have to mix the biofreeze with a carrier to cut the 4% menthol down a little. My body likes 2.5% menthol.

pinkynose 09-13-2015 09:26 AM

I love this creme!
 
I just tried the aspercreme with lidocaine cream last night for the burning and it worked great! The relief lasted all night for everything except a slight muscle pulling that began in one leg. It had been more then 6 hours so I applied a little more to the one spot and it was gone until morning. I am going to try to only use this product when absolutely necessary so hopefully it will continue to work.

ChaucerFan 09-14-2015 02:00 PM

Better than prescription?!
 
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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1168524)
I bought some of this recently.... the lidocaine amount is just shy of a Lidoderm patch. There have been commercials for this on TV too lately. Lidocaine is the only active ingredient. It does not have the other ingredients that regular Aspercreme has.

I am using it and finding a preliminary benefit to my night time pain. I have long suspected my feet hurt alot as referred pain from my knees. (since I retired and don't stand for hours on end anymore).

I apply a small glob (it is a thick lotion and in a bottle, not tube)
on each knee at bedtime. I concentrate on the sides of the knee where the nerves are. And I have seen a marked reduction in pain and burning at night. My left ankle pain is reduced about 80% so far.

So I do think might be helpful for others here. I did find less relief when applied to the tops of the feet themselves. So reaching the nerves higher up seems to work better for me. Try applying it on the lateral sides of the knee, if you have lower leg pain, or ankle pain.

This is the website;
http://www.aspercreme.com/pain-relie...lidocaine.html

The regular Aspercreme works for me a little, but if I try to use it every day it starts to sting the area I apply to.

I believe hubby picked it up for me at Target:
http://www.target.com/p/aspercreme-l...z/-/A-16836627

If you have an allergic problem with --caine anesthetics, then you should avoid this product.

I've been using 3% Lidocaine Cream, by prescription, and was close to running out. Now I don't need to ask for a new prescription. Thanks! :)

dancinglady 09-14-2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkynose (Post 1170739)
I just tried the aspercreme with lidocaine cream last night for the burning and it worked great! The relief lasted all night for everything except a slight muscle pulling that began in one leg. It had been more then 6 hours so I applied a little more to the one spot and it was gone until morning. I am going to try to only use this product when absolutely necessary so hopefully it will continue to work.

Where did you apply the crème. I followed Mrs. D's recommendation but did not get any relief, then I fudged and apply some to the bottom of my feet and it worked fine and is still working. Sorry, Mrs. D. I think the soles of my feet are the skinniest part of my body so maybe the nerves are closer because there is not much fat down there. LOL

pinkynose 09-14-2015 07:09 PM

I applied to the tops of my feet but there was a little left so I used that on the bottom of my feet too. Last night I tried on the side of my knees but it didn't work so well for me.

I do know the skin is thicker on the bottom of the feet and harder to absorb lotions. However, I had such good luck the 1st night I'd probably repeat the same areas again next time.

It's really an individual decision. Whatever or wherever works for you. There's no one right answer in my opinion.

indigo 09-15-2015 06:38 AM

access to meds
 
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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1168788)
I would apply the lidocaine cream along your inner wrists for the palm pain. Is that the only place you have an issue?

We had a fellow here who was straining his hands doing push ups. His palmar pain went away when he stopped that activity.

Do you use the magnesium lotion? (Morton Epsom Lotion)...
This too applied to the wrists and inner arms may help.
Available at WalMart, Walgreen's and online at Amazon. Just a nickles diameter dollop on each wrist is all you need.

Both of these topicals are inexpensive and work for me to quell much of my discomfort.


I would love to try something like the Aspercreme with Lidocaine but it's illegal in my country. Just tried Amazon to see if it was possible but it blocked me. I have severe burning pain in my feet and hands and nothing helps. It's meant I'm now in a wheelchair. It's incredibly frustrating knowing there are a wide range of medications available overseas that could be helpful that I'm never going to be able to access.

This is partly a slightly depressed rant and also wondering if some others face this difficulty? If so any ideas about solutions?

I found out today I'm being discharged from the pain clinic who have seen me for the last 9 months. So it's sort of end of the line. I pretty much know what's available to me and also know it's not enough as I'm steadily
deteriorating. It means I'll have no specialist care but I think there's a recognition that they don't have anything else to offer me. They've been very good to me and I'm grateful but I'm also scared. My quality of life is not high. Guess the frustration is knowing there could be something out there that could make things more bearable but I can't access it simply because of the country I live in. Sorry if this sounds very negative. Just a bit worn out.

mrsD 09-15-2015 09:47 AM

According to this link:
http://www.drugs.com/international/lidocaine.html

Emla is available in NZ. It might require a doctor's prescription, but I don't see any pain doctor denying a request for it.

For better penetration, it carries a recommendation to cover the area with plastic wrap (thin food wrap). But it may work without that too.

mrsD 09-15-2015 10:28 AM

I would like to repeat my warning:

Do not apply to large areas in one dose. This product is quite potent IMO and the other night my husband put some on my
problematic back shoulder. It had been a few days since the last application. Well, I couldn't see what he was doing, and he put too much on.

Somehow it affected my left ear nerve, and affected it somehow and I had a huge vertigo attack the next morning on the left side. I still cannot move my head back and to the left without some dizziness... but the surging awful vertigo was terrible. That left ear was tested years ago (in the '70's), and the results of the electronystagmagram showed severe nerve damage (possibly from measles or abuse as a child)... and I have had 4 vertigo attacks as an adult from that ear since. I do think it was from too much Lidocaine.

So do be careful with this new cream and use cautiously.

icelander 09-15-2015 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsD (Post 1171153)
I would like to repeat my warning:

Do not apply to large areas in one dose. This product is quite potent IMO and the other night my husband put some on my
problematic back shoulder. It had been a few days since the last application. Well, I couldn't see what he was doing, and he put too much on.

Somehow it affected my left ear nerve, and affected it somehow and I had a huge vertigo attack the next morning on the left side. I still cannot move my head back and to the left without some dizziness... but the surging awful vertigo was terrible. That left ear was tested years ago (in the '70's), and the results of the electronystagmagram showed severe nerve damage (possibly from measles or abuse as a child)... and I have had 4 vertigo attacks as an adult from that ear since. I do think it was from too much Lidocaine.

So do be careful with this new cream and use cautiously.

I would think that the patches would have much more. They recommend the use of up to three patches at one time. I'm guessing that would be a lot more than a large dose of that cream. I've used fairly large amounts of a 2.5 with no issues, and putting it on several times a day. So unless they have a warning about that I'm not sure if it's an issue for most. I could be wrong of course.

mrsD 09-15-2015 01:14 PM

The patches are designed to release the lidocaine slowly ...over 12 hours. I've never used more than one patch of Lidoderm, and usually cut them down in fact. But I have never had this symptom when using the patch on my back before.

The cream seems to penetrate quickly, IMO.

http://www.target.com/p/aspercreme-l...z/-/A-16836627
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Do not use

on large areas of the body or on cut, irritated or swollen skin
on puncture wounds

for more than one week without consulting a doctor.


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