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Old 06-30-2007, 12:02 PM #21
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Wow. You've been through it. I was never housebound by my anxiety. Thank goodness. I got treatment before I allowed it to progress to that point. I had gotten to the point where I would just rather be at home. Going anywhere was such a huge chore. I would work out in my yard almost every day. I find comfort and peace in playing in the dirt. ;-) I'm a homebody. It doesn't bother me. I do go places but I'm just one of those that like to be at home.

You've made huge strides forward. My hat's off to you.
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Hi again Jarrett and Sue:

Want to hear something interesting?? I have neve had a panic attack in my life. I watched someone have one once. Not pretty. They called an ambulance and it was an 18 year old having the attack. Someone said "don't worry, he's only having a panic attack, he gets them all th time". The ambulance came, gave him oxygen, and he was fine in no time.

Now i have no idea what precipitate this. But I witnessed it. And in others. You would think, me being a phobic, would freak out when I was going to the dentist. But no, I didn't freak out. I was just frightened to death. I finally found my phobia guy and the only time I took a xanax during the daytime was when I had a dental appointment. Took the edge off. I take one to sleep also. I sleep 8 hours straight.

Other than that, I have learned (and don't ask me how I did this, my friends can't do this, they don't understand how I do this, believe me). I have just let go of my anxiety about my son being a compulsive gambler, and his having aspergers. He lives 3000 miles away. I have absolutely no control over his behavior. He might end up in jail because he has no conscience and would commit a crime if he could get away with it. He has told me this.

I used to cry and go nuts (never had a panic attack though). I spoke to a psychiatrist (at a neuropathy meeting no less, and this was 4 years ago). He told me "you better put up those boundaries, these asperger kids are coming out of the woodwork". Now I didn't know what he meant but we talked for half an hour. Imagine getting to speak to a psychiatrist for free for 30 minutes and he was there because he had neuropathy!!!

He was the nicest doctor. He saw my bewilderment and he counseled me. I never forgot his advice. I joined asperger support groups, forums, and gamanon support groups. I even went to a Gamanon meeting.

My god, all those mothers with dead eyes, and the son still lived with them and the did not have the strength to kick the kids out. They just gave them money.

I just looked at them. I have never given my son a dime. He knew I wouldn't and that's why he moved out.

I've had a lot of adjustments to make. I feel this way, "it will either kill me or make me stronger". I just want to become stronger.

Hey, not easy. It's an every day struggle not to go crazy over our children.

But I do my thing, one step at a time.

Love you both.
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One of the greatest lessons in life is learning to pick your battles - learning when to let go and actually letting go. It's scary cause if we're 'doing' something it makes us feel as if we have at least some control over the situation.

I've never had a full blown panic attack, thank goodness. I have witnessed them in my daughter and others. Not a pleasant thing to see. Even worse to go through. I think if I hadn't gotten help when I did I may have progressed to full blown panic attacks.

I kicked my now 22 yr old out...more or less. When she turned 18 she had the worst case of 18-itis I think I've seen. I was taking bets about who was going to kill her in her sleep first: My son, or one of my daughters. It was that bad. I sent her to live with her sister which was to be temporary but from there she ended up going out on her own and that was the reality check she needed. Tough love. Sometimes ya gotta do what's best for them even when it hurts *you*.
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Your right boundaries are so important,along with using your voice,asking for help,and getting treatment. Its hard I know when in that mindset that things can be different but they can really. You have to hold onto hope and as my psych says since were quoting you have to feel it in your heart that you want more not just in your mind. If that makes sense.
Yes, it makes perfect sense to me. To think it is not enough. You have to really, down deep, want it.
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Thanks Jarrett I think sometimes the depression/anxiety can make one feel they want to be a homebody more then they are. I also still like the peace of being home but before the pain issue made goals to push through when feels like a chore. In the short run its hard as hell but in the long run makes life better. As for feeling it in your heart. I think that since I had done every treatment and saw every specialist and was in the best centers money could by with no change I realised it was me. I had to use the support and tools I learned. Jarrett how are you feeling now mentally? I do know that the pain issue can make life mentally horrible. So I know for me when this pain hopefully gets better I am going to remember how important health is and not to waste life. Have you or are you in therapy? I still go and support is very helpful. I hope the pc will help with this too and help with tool fr treatment of the pain. One day when more able I want to go to pain support groups. Ok enough of my ramble.
On a side note to the topic of this post has anyone who is not gluten intolerant gone on a gluten or wheat free diet and saw benefits? I always thought I had wheat issues but the tests of course said not. I have such stomach issues not diareah but constipation so that is different but bloating/pain. I often wonder too as I try to find the cause of my dizzy issues and my neck issue that comes a goes if it my have something to do with diet though all my vitamin levels are good. I don't think this issue would be though why the severe inner ankle foot pain that never goes.
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Thanks Jarrett I think sometimes the depression/anxiety can make one feel they want to be a homebody more then they are. I also still like the peace of being home but before the pain issue made goals to push through when feels like a chore. In the short run its hard as hell but in the long run makes life better. As for feeling it in your heart. I think that since I had done every treatment and saw every specialist and was in the best centers money could by with no change I realised it was me. I had to use the support and tools I learned. Jarrett how are you feeling now mentally? I do know that the pain issue can make life mentally horrible. So I know for me when this pain hopefully gets better I am going to remember how important health is and not to waste life. Have you or are you in therapy? I still go and support is very helpful. I hope the pc will help with this too and help with tool fr treatment of the pain. One day when more able I want to go to pain support groups. Ok enough of my ramble.
On a side note to the topic of this post has anyone who is not gluten intolerant gone on a gluten or wheat free diet and saw benefits? I always thought I had wheat issues but the tests of course said not. I have such stomach issues not diareah but constipation so that is different but bloating/pain. I often wonder too as I try to find the cause of my dizzy issues and my neck issue that comes a goes if it my have something to do with diet though all my vitamin levels are good. I don't think this issue would be though why the severe inner ankle foot pain that never goes.
I had therapy. I was told I was fine. My issues were due to a simple (ha!) chemical imbalance in my brain brought on by severe prolonged stress. I was under that level of stress for about 2 years before I finally crashed and burned. That is: That I got to the point where I needed intervention in the form of medications.

Depression and anxiety can also cause physical pain. That was one of the reasons they were trumpeting the creation of Cymbalta. It was the first AD/SSRI created that specifically works on pain as well.

From the research I've done going on a gluten/wheat free diet certainly won't hurt you. And is sometimes the only way to know for sure if one has a sensitivity. It's worth a try.

Constipation can also be a sign of Celiac disease if I remember correctly. Some people get diarrhea some get constipation. Trying to remember what I read but I think anyone that has issues with either one despite normal dietary adjustments in attempting to make it better, more fiber, etc, has something going on with food. Whether or not it's a gluten type sensitivity can only be determined for sure by eliminating that item from one's diet.

Vitamin levels? As in? Did they do the blood work and other tests needed to ensure accuracy? B-12 levels in the blood are not an accurate indicator of whether or not the body is actually using the B-12 or can use it.

I hope I'm making sense as I'm not exactly awake at this moment. I slept for a little over 12 hours last night and just woke up not too long ago. It's a side of weaning off the Effexor. I simply go with it because added to the side is still having a night or two a week where I don't sleep well from the PN in my feet. Most of the time I'm awake and alert and feel good.
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Well, to you guys who talk about not knowing how to cook (at one point or another), I thought I knew how but guess what? I don't!

I just burnt some eggs I was hard-boiling (for DH). I didn't set a timer and got distracted on this computer, ROFL! Can't even boil an egg, that's me!!

(Guess I should be happy I caught it before it got worse than scorching the pot.)
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Well, to you guys who talk about not knowing how to cook (at one point or another), I thought I knew how but guess what? I don't!

I just burnt some eggs I was hard-boiling (for DH). I didn't set a timer and got distracted on this computer, ROFL! Can't even boil an egg, that's me!!

(Guess I should be happy I caught it before it got worse than scorching the pot.)
Good thing you caught them when you did. I have a friend that did that and she let it go much longer apparently cause she said it was the worst smell she'd ever encountered!

Can we say, "Distraction"?
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Hi texasgeek and all the rest you ,that is a awfull smell it stinks and
it stinks bad. really bad. Put my nose in a panic attack.
It's been yrs. snce i did that and i still can remember my youngest
with a clothespin on his nose yelling mommy hates us. Iwas helping
other one with a over do science project and they boiled and boiled
all the water went away and they burnt and the smell so bad,my
youngest who tured out to be very bright,was handing out clothespins
stared to smile,i know what to do let's go to a motel and pick up
those eggs for sissy science project in the morning. And we did they
smelled sooo bad my daughter took them in a box and put them on
her teachers desk. Put a sign neatly written stupid science projects.
Well after the lecture i got,boy she was mean (she could of opened
a window) that's when i had my first tiny panic attach. And it smelled
to bad to go home,and people in the grocery store kept complaing
about the way the food smelled,my youngest kept laughing,it's
us mommy. Now that's the one i had the tough love prroblem with..
Wow Texasgeek you brought back some fond memories. You know
i can't remember where the oldest was, hmmm no i won't ask him
he's been through enough. D don't you think we can put strress in our
necks or couldn't it make us dizzy.

I got a message that Dr. Doll was called out of town and they reschedueld
my appointment for next week,i feel a pain coming on in my neck. But
no anxiety attack. So one more week of chanting,oh well. Sue
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