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Default Supplement help please?

I have purchased several supplements but have been haphazard in taking them in a timely manner. Can someone please advise when (empty stomach or full?) & how much of each I should take? I would do a search but my hands are in too much pain from the SFN.

Doctor's Best benfotiamine 150 mg.

Doctor's Best R-Lipoic Acid 100 mg. (this gives me heart burn even after eating)

Mag64 Magnesium 64 mg.

Spring Valley CoQ10 plus L-cartine 100 mg.

Superior Source B-12 Methylcobalamin 1000 mg.

If fish oil or others should be added please let me know.

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I have purchased several supplements but have been haphazard in taking them in a timely manner. Can someone please advise when (empty stomach or full?) & how much of each I should take? I would do a search but my hands are in too much pain from the SFN.

Doctor's Best benfotiamine 150 mg.
Two a day, in divided doses -- irregardless of food

Doctor's Best R-Lipoic Acid 100 mg. (this gives me heart burn even after eating)
One a day any time --irregardless of food. You don't need this at first, as you don't test positive for diabetes.

Mag64 Magnesium 64 mg.
Two a day-- one in am and one at night--- food not an issue

Spring Valley CoQ10 plus L-cartine 100 mg.

The CoQ10 most likely won't be absorbed...this is a weak product...
The Carnitine is very weak also... 500mg a day is
a typical beginning dose. The new improved versions of CoQ-10 are solubilized and better absorbed.Qunol is the name of one of them. Start with Qunol once a day since you were exposed to statins.


Superior Source B-12 Methylcobalamin 1000 mg.
Empty stomach always for this. Starting out 5000 would be better, but you can try 2000 of this if you want.

If fish oil or others should be added please let me know.
Fish oil is always good for healing -- 3 a day with food in divided doses.

Thank you in advance,

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Default This is how I take them:

1st thing in the morning on an empty stomach:
Doctor's Best benfotiamine 150 mg. (I took 1 in the morning and 1 at night for the 1st month and then 1 a day after the first month.)
Superior Source B-12 Methylcobalamin 1000 mg.

Since you get heartburn from R-Lipoic Acid my only suggestion would be to try taking with food that contains some fat and start off with the minimum amount. The stabilized form seems to be stronger.
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C0Q10 needs to be taken with fat for absorption. If you ever take Curcumin the same goes for that. I'm not familiar with Spring Valley CoQ10 plus L-cartine 100 mg so I don't feel qualified to say how often or how much. I guess check with instructions on bottle. I'm only taking 250mg of Enhanced Bioavailability Curcumin as 500mg made me itch. I believe most take 500 mg.

I don't know about Mag64.
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I have purchased several supplements but have been haphazard in taking them in a timely manner. Can someone please advise when (empty stomach or full?) & how much of each I should take? I would do a search but my hands are in too much pain from the SFN.


Doctor's Best benfotiamine 150 mg.

Doctor's Best R-Lipoic Acid 100 mg. (this gives me heart burn even after eating)

Mag64 Magnesium 64 mg.

Spring Valley CoQ10 plus L-cartine 100 mg.

If fish oil or others should be added please let me know.

Thank you in advance,

Cliffman
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I have purchased several supplements but have been haphazard in taking them in a timely manner. Can someone please advise when (empty stomach or full?) & how much of each I should take? I would do a search but my hands are in too much pain from the SFN.

Doctor's Best benfotiamine 150 mg.

Doctor's Best R-Lipoic Acid 100 mg. (this gives me heart burn even after eating)

Mag64 Magnesium 64 mg.

Spring Valley CoQ10 plus L-cartine 100 mg.

Superior Source B-12 Methylcobalamin 1000 mg.

If fish oil or others should be added please let me know.

Thank you in advance,

Cliffman

I say trust MrsD's advice above.

I will give my take as someone who suffers daily with pretty bad idiopathic SFN pain. Understanding I am doing what alleviates my pain and allows me to be almost completely off of Gabapentin. What i am doing may not be for everyone. I am aware of Vitamin dependence over time. BUT I WOULD RATHER TAKE HIGH DOSE SUPPLEMENTS THAN MEDICINES THAT NO ONE QUITE KNOWS HOW OR WHY THEY (BARELY) WORK that ruin various aspects of my life. .

I also take LifeExtension brand presently but Doctors Best is fine I have used it in the past. LifeExtension has larger doses.

1000mg B12 methyl (every morning empty stomach)
250mg Mega Benfotiamine (2-3 day depending upon my pain - empty stomach)
100mg R-Lipoic Acid (once or twice a day empty stomach)


Unfortunately I can not find a fish oil supplement I can tolerate. And the high absorption CoQ10 does not agree with me either. :-(

I have personally found empty stomach works better for the above three The heartburn from R-Lipoic acid went away for me pretty quickly and I have GERD. Often times that can also be the chemicals used on the coating of the pills

If i was not receiving pain relief I would not say the above is method is necessary. But, if you are ever thinking about trying to alleviate pain maybe give it a shot.
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• R-Lipoic Acid: 100mg - 300mg Daily
• Acetyl-L Carnitine: 1500mg Daily
• Vitamin B12: 1000 mcg Daily
• Magnesium 500mg Daily
• Grape Seed Extract 200mg Daily
• Benfotiamine 300mg daily


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[QUOTE=Patrick Winter;1188739]I say trust MrsD's advice above.

Cliffman, I must have been replying the same time as MrsD. If I had seen her post I would not have felt the need to reply. I agree with Patrick to trust her advise.

My list is how I take supplements for my purposes. We are all different. It is obvious from reading MrsD's response that besides having abundant general knowledge she knows about you
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I'd just like to clarify ....

The benfotiamine has no food restrictions. It can be taken before meals or after.

I have never had any side effects from Benfotiamine, and I take it usually in the middle of my day.

There are 3 forms of lipoic acid....
The newest form called stablized R-lipoic acid does not need empty stomach.

The older two types, 1) racemic mixed S and R and the 2)
R lipoic that is NOT stablized, should be taken on an empty stomach. There are studies showing up to 30% less absorption with food present.
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