This is the brand I take, Cliffman.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008RZFT1K


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What's the evidence that there are higher concentrations of toxins in the liver than in other tissue? The liver processes but doesn't store toxins. What it does store is perhaps the highest abundance of nutrients, which is why it's so highly prized by traditional cultures and by the paleo and general health community (excluding the vegetarian and vegan of course ). I eat quite a bit of liver, weekly, from fish, cow, chicken, etc.

To the best of my knowledge the studies are mixed at best, and perhaps even more so seem to indicate that toxins can be concentrated even to higher degrees elsewhere, in other tissue, including in lean meat and fat. Here are some links (specific to this point and in general about organ meats/oils):

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA40111...ver-Lover.html
http://wellnessmama.com/12579/organ-meats-healthy/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/does-...#axzz2h3kb7Yp4
http://chriskresser.com/how-to-eat-more-organ-meats/

*For some reason the PDF links don't work, so I'm trying to track down the two studies referred to. I don't like that I can't find them...

Moreover, if you're purchasing a quality product, whether cod liver oil or fish body oil, it should be tested regularly for toxins, including heavy metals, and this information should be noted, leaving aside that all our supplements are not regulated. The general take away, as the pieces note, is that you need good, quality and healthy sources of meat and oils, since any and all tissue can be contaminated.

Cliffman, just a note that if you do take any CLO or body oils, it's worth noting that almost all of them add in the vitamins. The two brands to which I linked don't seem to add in vitamins after having chemically/mechanically processed the oils to remove impurities, they're just naturally occurring. If the oils are chemically processed, then I would just avoid ones that have added vitamins unless you know the source and are okay with it.

Well, I guess you missed my point?

You can take COD, but in modest amounts. That is because of the A content.

Fish body oils, can be increased in dosing (and I have seen some patients (under doctors' care) using 10 to 15 a day. One cannot do this with COD.

When people often go to health food stores and ask for "fish oil" the salespeople there will often give COD. This will then create risks if those same people think they purchased "fish oil" and start taking more than one or two a day, based on what they read about.

Fish oil has moved thru purification procedures remarkably within the past decade. When we started with them, it was recommended to use "molecularly distilled" types. Now almost all of them are highly purified. So it is less of a worry about purity. However, there is much more oil in a fish body than liver, so COD remains more expensive, and also contains A and D which some people, may not need or want.

Many people don't read labels and don't really understand what they take and what is in it. For those highly informed and who understand the distinctions, they won't need to pay much attention here.

I just had a sinking feeling that people were buying COD for their fish oils...and that it needed to be clarified now.

Of course, I appreciate what you're saying and the importance of trying to keep things clear, and I agree with you that vitamin A can be and is very high in liver, which is why I eat very small amounts and only once or twice a week at most, with some weeks eating nothing. That's also why half to one teaspoon of CLO is the most I'd ever take. This is all important indeed. What I was concerned about is "the liver of the fish, where all the toxins are", since the liver is not where all the toxins are (I'm happy to change my mind, if studies consistently show otherwise), and I think that's an important point, since liver is very nutrient dense, the most nutrient dense part of the animal in fact, and worth consuming from healthy animals as long as it's done in moderation. That's all really.

BTW, I did as you advised, or as you do, and took the magnesium at night and I had some more muscle twitches through the night and in the morning, but I don't think it's related. Sadly there's just so much going on with me right now due to my allergic reaction to the lichen sourced vitamin D that it's likely not from the magnesium. I'm happy to say that it didn't lead to any digestive problems, so I will continue to take it. I'll also take my baths once a week with a cup of it. It may turn out that I'm like you and can't stomach it though, but we'll see.

In case this hasn't been mentioned, store it in the freezer to help prevent minnow mouth.

I take this:

http://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signa...100149465.html

Kirkland Signature™ Wild Alaskan Fish Oil, 1,400 mg., 230 Softgels
Features: Sustainably Sourced, Natural Source of Whole Omega, Cold Pressed, Extra Virgin

I have SEVERE coronary artery disease, with my Lateral Anterior Descending Artery (known as the widow maker) 95% blocked in 1999. Opened and maintained with a stent, along with two other arteries.

SO, I take TWO of these a day, as instructed by my Duke Cardiologist.

And in 16 years, I haven't had any recurrence. I also take 80 mg of Lipitor daily, and have for 16 years.

I have genetically outrageously high cholesterol, but with my Lipitor and Fish Oil my LDL is 95 my HDL is 68 and Triglycerides are 78. But still, anything can happen, of course. And we don't get out alive, do we?

Those of us with Sympathetic and Parasympathetic Damage also take Fish Oil to help with dryness.

I also take Fish Oil with a vague hope of helping my profound peripheral neuropathy.

What is minnow mouth, February?

Hugs, Elained

Elaine, you still take Lipitor. I've talked about a friend who is now in a class action suit against Lipitor as she took it for 30 yrs and ended up dealing with neuropathy for 15 yrs and her doctor NEVER putting the two together...which I have a hard time believing..Doctors know or should know side effects of these statins. And all the drugs they prescribe. This friend never got on the technology wagon but her daughter found the connection of Lipitor and the neuropathy.

This friend is off all the meds she's taken for neuropathy and finding so much relief on the grape seed ex for about the last 5 yrs or so. She's 83 soon I think.

Dr. Sinatra has a lot of info on cholesterol, heart health, statins etc..which I trust a lot. Personally I take 3 of his recommendations for heart health: magnesium, COQ10 and DRibose...he also likes L Carnitine but I don't take it. No reason. I don't have heart issues per se, but I'm getting oldER and everything wears out.

Minnow mouth must mean the poster tastes fish..that's what I thought. I've taken FO for many years and Never any fishy taste. I keep my FO out but I guess one could refrigerate it, but I'd never freeze.

MrsD,

I ordered the Kirkland Krill from Amazon, 500 mg pill. Once a day with a meal or this one that I should take 3 times a day?

Thanks,
Cliffman

Krill oil is very different from fish oil.... there is more effective absorption for it compared to fish oil, so less is needed.

500mg once a day (maybe if you think you need 2, try two)...but that is all really you need. Two 500mg krill are equal or more than 4 fish oils of regular strength. You can take them with food too.

The old fish oil has to be taken with food to aid absorption.