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Hi Sylvie,
There is an exercise training program by Dr Leviene from Dallas that might be helpful for POTS.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...66070214002021
You can read about it in this blog -
http://potsgrrl.blogspot.co.il/2011/...-protocol.html
There is a lot of information about tests and treatments for POTS in that blog.

According to what you wrote here and on previous posts, if your blood pressure is falling when standing, I am not sure the diagnosis is POTS, as far as I know it seems NMH/OH.
I have both....as noted by En Boc, they are interrelated. I've heard about the Leviene protocol, but have not read anything except patient experiences....thank you for these references!
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I have both....as noted by En Boc, they are interrelated. I've heard about the Leviene protocol, but have not read anything except patient experiences....thank you for these references!
I have POTS for many years and I have tried betablockers and fludrocortisone with high salt and liquid intake. A healthy nutrition helped me more than these treatents.
My doctor gave me the detailes of the Leviene protocol, if you want I can send you.
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Florinef (Fludrocortisone) is to help increase BP by retaining fluids...as is the high salt diet. So I guess you had (at one point, at least) some drops in BP to warrant trying these. Are you not having any problems now with BP?

Were you ever Dx with NMH/OH?
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Florinef (Fludrocortisone) is to help increase BP by retaining fluids...as is the high salt diet. So I guess you had (at one point, at least) some drops in BP to warrant trying these. Are you not having any problems now with BP?

Were you ever Dx with NMH/OH?
My baseline BP is very high...so Florinef and salt are out. DX is neurocardiogenic syncope and POTS....you understand the relationship!

And yes, my BP is all over the place...even with three meds. Lots of tachycardia too.
As noted, this is why I feel so sick. I also think I'm now deconditioned...My muscles are a shadow of what they were just 18 months ago. But I am stronger in yoga, and my balance is good....

I'll know a lot more on Tuesday when I meet with the cardiologist.

Thanks!
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My baseline BP is very high...so Florinef and salt are out. DX is neurocardiogenic syncope and POTS....you understand the relationship!

And yes, my BP is all over the place...even with three meds. Lots of tachycardia too.
As noted, this is why I feel so sick. I also think I'm now deconditioned...My muscles are a shadow of what they were just 18 months ago. But I am stronger in yoga, and my balance is good....

I'll know a lot more on Tuesday when I meet with the cardiologist.

Thanks!
OK. I had written this reply in follow-up to stillhoping's comment about the trying the Florinef and salt...yet I thought she said she didn't have BP problems, only POTS. I was a bit confused for why she would be Rx'd this med if she didn't have BP problems, as that it why it is used.

But, now I know more about your condition. I now realize my PM to you probably made no sense, given your high BP. So, I will rethink this with the more info I have and get back to you.
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OK. I had written this reply in follow-up to stillhoping's comment about the trying the Florinef and salt...yet I thought she said she didn't have BP problems, only POTS. I was a bit confused for why she would be Rx'd this med if she didn't have BP problems, as that it why it is used.

But, now I know more about your condition. I now realize my PM to you probably made no sense, given your high BP. So, I will rethink this with the more info I have and get back to you.
Thank you so much!
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Florinef (Fludrocortisone) is to help increase BP by retaining fluids...as is the high salt diet. So I guess you had (at one point, at least) some drops in BP to warrant trying these. Are you not having any problems now with BP?

Were you ever Dx with NMH/OH?
I don't have NMH/OH, just POTS.
I tried this treatment twice. The first time was when my POTS was just diagnosed, I had normal BP and the Florinef, salt and water raised my BP so I had to add propranolol. I am very sensitive to medication so it took a few months to find the exact combination, and I continued for about 2 years.

I tried to return to this treatment recently, my BP now is lower (100-80/60-70), probably because I hardly eat salt or processed food. So this time I didn't need the propranolol. I couldn't tolerate the salt because of GI and iron issues, so I stopped it.
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I don't have NMH/OH, just POTS.
I tried this treatment twice. The first time was when my POTS was just diagnosed, I had normal BP and the Florinef, salt and water raised my BP so I had to add propranolol. I am very sensitive to medication so it took a few months to find the exact combination, and I continued for about 2 years.

I tried to return to this treatment recently, my BP now is lower (100-80/60-70), probably because I hardly eat salt or processed food. So this time I didn't need the propranolol. I couldn't tolerate the salt because of GI and iron issues, so I stopped it.

That's what I thought you said (that you DIDN'T have NMH). That's why I was confused because Florinef is used the treat NMH and to increase BP. Not sure why they would have Rx that for you if you didn't have NMH or low BP. The medicine is designed to retain fluids to raise BP...that is all it does, so it made no sense why they would Rx this for you.
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That's what I thought you said (that you DIDN'T have NMH). That's why I was confused because Florinef is used the treat NMH and to increase BP. Not sure why they would have Rx that for you if you didn't have NMH or low BP. The medicine is designed to retain fluids to raise BP...that is all it does, so it made no sense why they would Rx this for you.
This is also a treatment to POTS, two doctors recommended it to me even without NMH or low BP, and I know others with POTS without NMH who got it.

The goal of this and other treatments for POTS is to increase the amount of blood reaching the head when standing. Either by increasing the blood volume or the vasoconstriction.

Have you used Florinef and salt ?
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I have used Florinef, Midodrine (vaso-constrictor) and salt for 19 years.

The sole purpose of Florinef, is as you said, to increase blood flow to the head. it does this by helping the body retain fluids and increase BP. The reason your BP increased when you took it is because that's exactly what the medication is supposed to do.

That goal you mentioned is exactly what those with NMH also need. Because that is what is needed when BP drops too.
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